Ozy vs Panther

Originally posted by h1a8
So if you equate grip strength to all other strength then you must conclude that the Mjolnir feat is an outlier.

This literally made no sense. If I saw someone strong enough to crush a metal hammer in their grip, why would I arrive at the conclusion that this person is not strong?

Originally posted by h1a8

Her holding Thor like that isn't sufficient enough strength to crush Mjolnir.
And that feat can be done if someone is just twice as strong as the other person.

And like I said, she did not have the strength to crush Thor's throat in that scene.

No dude, you don't get it. Hela wasn't trying to crush Thor in her grip. She was using her grip to keep him from moving - which she was successful at. If you really did do martial arts like you claim (or even if you just exercised a bit of common sense) you'd realize that crushing something in your grip and keeping someone immobile by grabbing them by the neck are pretty different actions utilizing different muscles.

And no, being just twice stronger than a person would not give you sufficient strength to counter their entire body's strength with just your one-handed grip. Not unless you have a pretty solid leverage advantage.

Originally posted by FrothByte
This literally made no sense. If I saw someone strong enough to crush a metal hammer in their grip, why would I arrive at the conclusion that this person is not strong?

No dude, you don't get it. Hela wasn't trying to crush Thor in her grip. She was using her grip to keep him from moving - which she was successful at. If you really did do martial arts like you claim (or even if you just exercised a bit of common sense) you'd realize that crushing something in your grip and keeping someone immobile by grabbing them by the neck are pretty different actions utilizing different muscles.

And no, being just twice stronger than a person would not give you sufficient strength to counter their entire body's strength with just your one-handed grip. Not unless you have a pretty solid leverage advantage.

Stop being slow now. It's too much work to explain shit you misunderstood.

Crushing Mjolnir is outlier because every showing of strength by Hela is far below it. In other words, the Mjolnir feat contradicts every showing where she uses strength. Now you can argue that outliers count, I don't care. But it is indeed an outlier.

From that position, one can achieve it at twice the strength. Hell I can hold you up against the wall and you would have a unbelievably hard time getting out just using strength and not technique. You would but it will take you some time.

She couldn't crush his throat as the reason she threw him and tried to stab him. This is common sense. Another proof of Mjolnir feat being an outlier.

Lol you just make shit up and feed it to yourself until you're convinced its true. You ever think if youre the only person who thinks you're right every single time, like literally every instance...youre probably not right?

h1 just loves being a hypocrite.

Originally posted by KingD19
Lol you just make shit up and feed it to yourself until you're convinced its true. You ever think if youre the only person who thinks you're right every single time, like literally every instance...youre probably not right?

That's why we debate. We prove someone is wrong. That's why we are here in the first place. Don't forget that.

What braindamaged users voted for Ozymandias 😂

h1, don't know who else voted for him so I can't comment on whether or not they're also braindamaged.

Originally posted by Silent Master
h1, don't know who else voted for him so I can't comment on whether or not they're also braindamaged.

So you agree to being a hypocrite since you accept Thor's neutron feat and Hela's Mjolnir feat but not Ozy's bullet feat.

Are you at some point going to address your massive double standards?

Originally posted by h1a8
That's why we debate. We prove someone is wrong. That's why we are here in the first place. Don't forget that.

You're always proven wrong though

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
You're always proven wrong though

Although I disagree, that has nothing to do with the thread.

Prove me wrong here.
Ozy wins because both his perception, BP moving far slower than a bullet, and his fighting style will make him unhittable here.

Even if BP can eventually tag Ozy (which he won't), Ozy would have hit BP countless times before then.

interesting how you continue to use an outlier even though you've gone on the record as saying you believe we should go by averages

Those are the actions of a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Silent Master
interesting how you continue to use an outlier even though you've gone on the record as saying you believe we should go by averages

Those are the actions of a hypocrite.

What does that have to do with thread? You are derailing the thread.

Originally posted by carthage
What braindamaged users voted for Ozymandias 😂

H1 5 times

Originally posted by h1a8
What does that have to do with thread? You are derailing the thread.

Then stop being a hypocrite.

If only H1 could truly fathom what the entirety of KMC really thinks of him. Everyone here thinks he’s a joke. He’s a clown man. 🤡

Originally posted by h1a8
You you didn't understand anything I said.
I'll repeat.
He doesn't need to move his hand fast as a bullet to defend against attacks that are far slower. It would be incredibly stupid to do so.Think about it.

Originally posted by Nevan
Are you saying that the first bullets he was shot with were far slower than the bullet he was shot with the second time?

Originally posted by Nevan
Are you saying that the first bullets he was shot with were far slower than the bullet he was shot with the second time?

That's what I think of you. Very stupid.

Maybe you should read your own posts.

Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't need to move his hand fast as a bullet to defend against attacks that are far slower.

move his hand fast as a bullet to defend against attacks that are far slower

attacks that are far slower

So either you think he was moving as fast as a bullet or that the attacks were far slower.

Which one is it?