Silver Surfer vs HP Doomsday

Started by MrMind21 pages

heh?

Watch the videos.

Man the first time TRT blasting DMT smoking Joe Rogaine actually sound more intelligent than someone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yz-P94n0Q&t=8m22s

Jfc. How many more times could he have ended a sentence with "right?" Surprised JR didn't rip into him about that as well.

"like" "right" "like" "right" etc.

The comments are amazing on all the videos, though.

The very first comment got me.

"Within the first 30 seconds of this video, I have concluded Adam is a Beta."

😂

Can't do it.

First time I ever heard of this guy, I watched that "Adam ruins everything" and thought it was kind of neat. Second episode I tried to watch I couldn't handle it. There's something about the guy I can't stand. He tries to act way smarter than he is, and he comes off retarded I think... right.

****ing 2 minutes of right is all I could do from Galan's timelink. There's no way I can do a full segment today right.

Don't watch the last one I posted then.

I worked with a guy who used to say "like" and "right" every second sentence. Skid guy but same concept. It got brutally teased out of his vocabulary.
Adam has no one around him to make fun of his abuse of words.

Speaking of male friends, watch at least the first three minutes of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-eA5Yooa1M

Scroll through the comments as you do for maximum experience. It's hilarious.

Uh...

Is that dude regretting not being able to kiss his male friends as he gets older or something? I'm not getting the correlation between phag shit not being acceptable and not forming a bond with a dude. You don't have to do girl tier physicality to be friends with someone...

Loss for what to say about this really, oh wait

So like um right, and then like guys don't handhold like riiiight, and then we like um aren't like right conditioned to be like right um like right friends with each other because of this right, so like um.
So yeah like um right, guys don't want to be like right gay right, so we don't have friends right. Riiiiiiight like I used to kiss my male friends right, but then my loser like father beat it out of me right. Now I have like right lots of right like um women friends right.

Boy I miss kissing boys right. Like um right then riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
(No question marks ever, because everything is a statement of fact even when I end it with "right"😉

I'd love to spend a couple hours with this guy just saying the dumbest sentences filled with "right like um"
He'll never learn until it gets shredded out of him.

Like if only one day everyone in kmc is required to debate starting the sentence with "like" then ending the sentence with "right", Right?

I don't understand why this thread is still going on.
The answer is DD wins.
That's the end of the thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why can't you just admit that you were wrong here(or at the very least that you cannot prove the point you're trying to make)..? Instead you're just moving the goal-post all over the place and throwing around irrevalent red herrings/non sequiturs.

It's... cringey.


I have no problem accepting when I’m wrong and this is not it man, i just don’t understand how the basic concept of entropy escapes your understanding. I know we are discussing comics but the very principal concept of entropy should still apply unless otherwise stated and the fact is entropy is not conceptual to one state, this is why we have standard entropy to free entropy to entropic induce to total entropy with each having different intensity or destructive force.. all this is factual in real life and is also supported in DC Universe via the scan I provided.

Originally posted by Ambient
Entropy will never decrease but it can increase let’s say by adding more Entropic energy.

Here different state of Entropy in DC universe.

Entropic introduction:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4842039/

Entropy higher State:
https://postimg.cc/CZ7vftYh
But reversible this wouldn’t be the case if it was total Entropy
https://postimg.cc/BPqTx55x

Total Entropy:
https://m.imgur.com/MVxqhjP

So! Why would I need to be the one to provide the burden of proof on this matter when the very factual knowledge on this subject is supported by my claim as supposed to ur opinions going against it. Shouldn’t the burden of proof falls on u guys? And not mine.

But if u don’t want to discuss this farther, just let me know and I’ll stop it. I mean where far gone outside actual topic of this thread.

I meant my claim is supported by actual facts not the other way around.. lol

Kinda see what ure saying..

HPdd to the bone
https://postimg.cc/CZ7vftYh
HPdd no bone
https://i.postimg.cc/pd5wRG9y/RCO045-1471838298.jpg

At least i think that's why u brought up the comparison. I know something about DD's bones were brought up earlier regarding entropy..

Then again there's...

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I do agree with the concept that "uber powers" have been displayed more potent in large doses. Though that's more largely a case of things being mishandled by too many cooks. Realistically, entropic energy should only need enough quantity to cover a being to be at max effectiveness, as should anti-matter - which has been... well, inconsistent even in DC - but the possibility that things can 'resist' it seems wrong. We also have cases where powers that should act similar between Marvel and DC are displayed as wildly different. Then we have people using or denying feats being used from different verses based on the portrayals.

I do think too much emphasis is placed on skeletons in comics though. This goes back to things being mishandled. The skeleton reveal seems to be used to display finality and impact in a way that Doomsday simply 'vanishing' lacks. Him vanishing naturally leads to the possibility of teleportation, or wonder. Us seeing his skeleton shows us he was hit and killed. It works more effective and creates more trust than a little box saying "Doomsday be dead, it's whack," but he still died. All the durability his skeleton had didn't save him.
I realize what I'm saying is rationalizing something that happened on panel, but we see this sort of stuff tons of times in comics. Imperiex was portrayed as overdoing it in the issue, not as someone that did just enough to 'bone' Doomsday.
IMO at the point of death in comics, it makes no difference whether the being gets fully atomized or skeletonized. It all depends on how the artist wants to draw it, or the message the writer wants to leave. It does seem being atomized creates an opening for lazy writers to bring a being back though. Though the crafty writer can work with either.

That being said, even following this, it took entropy operating as entropy to kill Doomsday; even following the skeleton trope. Naturally something less can kill him, we just don't know what could based on the gap. It's a limit, not a minimum, but it creates a wide gap that you can't possibly gauge. I don't think Surfer can output enough power in either case to put down DD to answer the thread.

Also, just reread Apokolips Now. DS definitely separated the EA from John. It's quite clear that it wasn't "destroyed" or just disappeared.. The consequent pages made it pretty evident. It explained that John was returned to his messed up or practically dead state as when Clark saw him on the moon. It was something that DS made an emphasis of and explicitly told Clark right before he separated John from the armor.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

HPdd no bone
https://i.postimg.cc/pd5wRG9y/RCO045-1471838298.jpg
DD's 'death' at the end of H/P was retconned during Doomsday Wars. IOW, that scene officially never happened, and no longer suffices as admissible evidence... In DD's only *canon* showing against Entropy, his bones endured.

The whole 'levels of Entropy' concept is something that Ambient is just making up. Nothing in canon supports it.

Yeah I brought that up as an example of different entropy state (intensity) in DC Universe one is an entropy state of free energy (possibly) and the other total Entropy similar to this one..

https://m.imgur.com/MVxqhjP

We’re the latter is none existance.

Originally posted by Galan007
DD's 'death' at the end of H/P was retconned during Doomsday Wars. IOW, that scene officially never happened, and no longer suffices as admissible evidence... In DD's only *canon* showing against Entropy, his bones endured.

The whole 'levels of Entropy' concept is something that Ambient is just making up. Nothing in canon supports it.


I get ya..
But the effects were different. It was canon up to a point. I dint see why it wouldn't affect HPdd the same way if a story called for it to happen. Same reason why I'm on the side of some showings are legit(ie. portions of the reigning) even though there were time shenanigans. I believe many have echoed the same sentiment.

Still im not sure whether effects are due to intensity or amount of time within its effects. There could even be a whole can of worms opened up if someone brings up surface contact.. 😂

Then there's Brans explanation. Wutevers.

Originally posted by Ambient
Entropy higher State:
https://postimg.cc/CZ7vftYh

Total Entropy:
https://m.imgur.com/MVxqhjP

where are you getting that these 2 applications of entropy are different? ive read through your posts here and that isnt mentioned anywhere in the scans..so where is this opinion of your coming from? what supports it?

do you think its possible that doomsdays bones were able to survive the entropy blast not because entropy has different lethalities, but because he is just meant to be that retardedly durable?