superman vs trans tier

Originally posted by carver9
Using Thor or Surfer at their best, they could beat some of these peeps as well. Hulk would outright annihilate some here at his best.

laughable, there's a reason Hulk is mid herald level

he's a one dimensional brick

neither Thor or Surfer at their peak are close to trans tier, they are not even the top of high herald level, Mr Majestic Wally West or Hal Jordan shit all over them

not to mention both Surfer and Thor are shells of their former selves with the disservice low showings they are getting

Originally posted by MrMind
laughable, there's a reason Hulk is mid herald level

he's a one dimensional brick

neither Thor or Surfer at their peak are close to trans tier, they are not even the top of high herald level, Mr Majestic Wally West or Hal Jordan shit all over them

not to mention both Surfer and Thor are shells of their former selves with the disservice low showings they are getting

Lol... there are bricks that are in this tier that doesnt come close to having any of Hulks fts. Observation is a critical tool.

Thor and Surfer are the most powerful Heralds imo. Thir alone has better fts against upper tier being than any herald on the list.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... there are bricks that are in this tier that doesnt come close to having any of Hulks fts. Observation is a critical tool.

Thor and Surfer are the most powerful Heralds imo. Thir alone has better fts against upper tier being than any herald on the list.

Hulk can't fly nor can move faster than most Heralds can respond to. He can be Bfr easily by force (throw into space). He at best can only be mid Herald.

Mind was referring to current characters. Currently SS and Thor are having a lot of low showings.

Also when weighing characters, current showings have more weight on them than old showings. Unless you are the type that uses only high end showing and disregard all low showings. (that's ok as well).

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk can't fly nor can move faster than most Heralds can respond to. He can be Bfr easily by force (throw into space). He at best can only be mid Herald.

Mind was referring to current characters. Currently SS and Thor are having a lot of low showings.

Also when weighing characters, current showings have more weight on them than old showings. Unless you are the type that uses only high end showing and disregard all low showings. (that's ok as well).

whats surfer current low showings?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
whats surfer current low showings?

Losing to Thor.

When did he lose to Thor?

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk can't fly nor can move faster than most Heralds can respond to. He can be Bfr easily by force (throw into space). He at best can only be mid Herald.

Mind was referring to current characters. Currently SS and Thor are having a lot of low showings.

Also when weighing characters, current showings have more weight on them than old showings. Unless you are the type that uses only high end showing and disregard all low showings. (that's ok as well).

A lot of people on that list can bfred. Stop trippin. Mid Herald is funny.

Then he should not have responded to me since I did say "at their best" and Surfer current showings are as beastly as his classic showings.

Originally posted by carver9
A lot of people on that list can bfred. Stop trippin. Mid Herald is funny.

Then he should not have responded to me since I did say "at their best" and Surfer current showings are as beastly as his classic showings.

Then what did MrMind mean by this
"not to mention both Surfer and Thor are shells of their former selves with the disservice low showings they are getting."

Although that doesn't excuse Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then what did MrMind mean by this
"not to mention both Surfer and Thor are shells of their former selves with the disservice low showings they are getting."

Although that doesn't excuse Thor.

Doesnt matter what he meant by that since I said "both of them at their best".

bfr is OFF for the purposes of this and ALL my threads. 👆

Tyrant is well above Trans tier. Hell even Thanos was powerful enough to stand toe to toe with an elite Sky Father back in the day. Thanos has of course gone well above that level according to Starlin's most recent work, but back then before the rise, he was at least low Sky Father.

i do agree tyrant was above trans. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
bfr is OFF for the purposes of this and ALL my threads. 👆

Good.

Bfr off means, they can be thrown off the battlefield, right?

Lol

Originally posted by cdtm
Good.

Bfr off means, they can be thrown off the battlefield, right?

what? 😕

Originally posted by carver9
Doesnt matter what he meant by that since I said "both of them at their best".

you really don't want to use the at their best arguments, even counting their best they are not close, unless you count thor having odinforce

neither thor nor surfer can come close to mr majestic, zoom, hal jordan or wally west at their best. they just can't

zoom is so fast he make the flash who ran at infinite speed look like statue and he punches harder than superman.

the flash is capable of time travel, IMP with force of white dwarf star, speed steal thor into a statue, wally once saved half a million people one or two at a time off an island in less than milisecond, he was at least million times faster than speed of light according to calculation

Barry has attosecond reaction, no one in marvel has reaction speed even come close to it
the flash can phase through their brain or heart with absolute ease

Mr Majestic has blades that can cut through anything, has strength to rearrange the solar system. having strength to move several times the mass of earth. he is simply stronger faster and a better fighter

hal jordan has will power that rival the central battery, he shot through Krona a abstract being with all the emotional entities, he had taken on the entire sinestro corps by himself, he was fighting sinestrollax evenly

these are simple facts, just naming a few accomplishments of these characters at their best. only touching a tip of the iceberg, surfer and thor cannot replicate any of these feats even at their best, not even close. and these characters at their best can one shot Hulk. so to think any of the 3 you mentioned are even close to trans level is laughable

of course you are gonna dismiss it knowing you never read dc comics. so I'm not gonna really bother with this discussion any furhter

Wait a minute. You're naming off abilities against Thor and Surfer? 2 of Feb most versatile characters in all of comics. Now this is funny.

versatility don't mean shit when they are simply less powerful
do you think martian manhunter can beat the hulk?

they simply can't replicate any of the showings I mentioned. if you think otherwise then prove it

Originally posted by MrMind
versatility don't mean shit when they are simply less powerful
do you think martian manhunter can beat the hulk?

.....yes.

Right to the brain, then some martian vision.

Or shapeshifts and expands.

Sometimes versatility does take out raw power.

Versatility for number of abilities's sake was never a good indicator - it's what they are, and how you can apply those abilities.

J'onn's versatility would be too much for Hulk. Iron Man's wouldn't. Even though Stark has more # of abilities than J'onn. Even in a forum/tourney battle.