Originally posted by MrMind
versatility don't mean shit when they are simply less powerful
do you think martian manhunter can beat the hulk?they simply can't replicate any of the showings I mentioned. if you think otherwise then prove it
I know that versatility means nothing which is the reason I laughed at you mentioning it. KMC Flash is in a league of his own. The true Flash gets stomped by top tiers and beings stand in one spot tanking their attacks. Tell me, besides fighting another speedster, name a powerful character Flash has beaten. Konvikt stands in one spot tanking his punches. Damage, Grundy, etc... You all overhype beings that is outright terrible in comics but bash characters that have true high end, consistent good showings. What kind of debating is this?
Hulk, Thor, and Surfer would beat Majestic. He doesnt have the fts and I do not debate powerset. If that is what you're doing here then we need to get off of this topic.
Lol... how did I know the Anti-Monitor and Mongul showing would be presented. Come on Dark, you're predictable. What else ya got? That cant be the extent of whom he have defeated? You post the same scans every time we debate Flash. You do know Beast and Rhino have showings of beating beings outside of their tier as well, right?
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... how did I know the Anti-Monitor and Mongul showing would be presented. Come on Dark, you're predictable. What else ya got? That cant be the extent of whom he have defeated? You post the same scans every time we debate Flash. You do know Beast and Rhino have showings of beating beings outside of their tier as well, right?
You asked. I answered.
If you want to move the goalposts, that's on you. If it was so predictable, why did you ask??
Reread your post. You asked for powerful characters who aren't speedsters, who the Flash defeated.
I posted. Is Mongul a speedster? Anti monitor?
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You asked. I answered.If you want to move the goalposts, that's on you. If it was so predictable, why did you ask??
Reread your post. You asked for powerful characters who aren't speedsters, who the Flash defeated.
I posted. Is Mongul a speedster? Anti monitor?
Concession accepted.
Not a concession. Just seems more like a "down to my last resort" kind of post. You've helped me realize something though. Flash have nothing relevant against top tiers. Lol!!! I'm sure when we debate Flash again, the same two scans will be presented.
Originally posted by carver9
Not a concession. Just seems more like a "down to my last resort" kind of post. You've helped me realize something though. Flash have nothing relevant against top tiers. Lol!!! I'm sure when we debate Flash again, the same two scans will be presented.
Wait, so did you out yourself as a troll in the stupidest way possible?
'I, Carver, know full well that Flash has done well/beaten powerful characters who aren't speedsters.
'I will bait and ask posters, not once, but twice, for examples, as if they don't exist.'
You asked for scans, Y/N?
I answered on topic, Y/N?
Do we ignore showings now? Same two scans will be used, indeed, because they exist. Next time, if you don't want them posted, don't ask such silly questions, lol.
It's interesting when you faced me in a BZ, you chose a speedster, though. And not anyone else (not even a top tier like Hulk, lol!!!!)
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, so did you out yourself as a troll in the stupidest way possible?'I, Carver, know full well that Flash has done well/beaten powerful characters who aren't speedsters.
'I will bait and ask posters, not once, but twice, for examples, as if they don't exist.'
You asked for scans, Y/N?
I answered on topic, Y/N?
Do we ignore showings now? Same two scans will be used, indeed, because they exist. Next time, if you don't want them posted, don't ask such silly questions, lol.
It's interesting when you faced me in a BZ, you chose a speedster, though. And not anyone else (not even a top tier like Hulk, lol!!!!)
It's not trolling though. We have debated those "all he have" same 2 scans for yrs now. No need to continue. You helped me realize something. Lets leave it at that.
I used Flash because KMC Flash is unbeatable. The real Flash is boo boo. It's just that simple. People have different ways of debating here. Sometimes you have to adapt in order to win.
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Originally posted by carver9
It's not trolling though. We have debated those "all he have" same 2 scans for yrs now. No need to continue. You helped me realize something. Lets leave it at that.I used Flash because KMC Flash is unbeatable. The real Flash is boo boo. It's just that simple. People have different ways of debating here. Sometimes you have to adapt in order to win.
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So why ask if you knew they existed?
I was hoping someone else replied. Like the person I was quoting. You save scans and debate those same scans for yrs. Also, Mongul took his attention off of Flash for some time allowing him to gather himself when he shouldve pressed his attack. Thanks for the scans though. Does anyone else have any other showings of Flash beating someone relevant out of the umpteenth yrs he has been in comics?
Originally posted by carver9
I was hoping someone else replied. Like the person I was quoting. You save scans and debate those same scans for yrs. Also, Mongul took his attention off of Flash for some time allowing him to gather himself when he shouldve pressed his attack. Thanks for the scans though. Does anyone else have any other showings of Flash beating someone relevant out of the umpteenth yrs he has been in comics?
Essentially, you were hoping someone less knowledgeable, who didn't have those scans to hand, would reply 👆
And I'm not sure why anyone should reply to your requests. Everytime they do so, you just move the goalposts.
Soon, you're going to ask for specific scans of Flash beating people who wear the colour purple in comics that were released in January 2019 only.
I mean, why does this occur? Where did the forum rule arise that it had to occur X% of the time, in the last Y years?
We have the full capacity rule. And it specifically mentions Flash, lol.
You have such double standards and hypocrisy. In threads that you support the character, you're happy to use their best showings - which is fair. But then ignore low showings which bring their average WAYY down (Cheetah being a prime example).
I mean, this thread thoroughly exposes your bias.
You ask for scans of Flash beating powerful non speedsters.
Despite apparently knowing that such scans exist.
Then....when they ARE posted, start squirming away. Handwaving. Moving goalposts.
In effect, ignoring them because they don't fit your narrative.
Originally posted by carver9DS bases his life around 10 scans. Sometimes he goes for the prestigious 11th scan to add to his repertoire, but that is where he falters.
I was hoping someone else replied. Like the person I was quoting. You save scans and debate those same scans for yrs. Also, Mongul took his attention off of Flash for some time allowing him to gather himself when he shouldve pressed his attack. Thanks for the scans though. Does anyone else have any other showings of Flash beating someone relevant out of the umpteenth yrs he has been in comics?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Essentially, you were hoping someone less knowledgeable, who didn't have those scans to hand, would reply 👆And I'm not sure why anyone should reply to your requests. Everytime they do so, you just move the goalposts.
Soon, you're going to ask for specific scans of Flash beating people who wear the colour purple in comics that were released in January 2019 only.
I mean, why does this occur? Where did the forum rule arise that it had to occur X% of the time, in the last Y years?
We have the full capacity rule. And it specifically mentions Flash, lol.
You have such double standards and hypocrisy. In threads that you support the character, you're happy to use their best showings - which is fair. But then ignore low showings which bring their average WAYY down (Cheetah being a prime example).
I mean, this thread thoroughly exposes your bias.
You ask for scans of Flash beating powerful non speedsters.
Despite apparently knowing that such scans exist.
Then....when they ARE posted, start squirming away. Handwaving. Moving goalposts.
In effect, ignoring them because they don't fit your narrative.
When do I use a character BEST showing as evidence of how powerful a character is. It's like me saying Spiderman can stand in one spot and tank hits from the entire JLA because he survived the Ultimate Nullifier...
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/DYStvj7
You'll hold on to scans like that as proof of how powerful a character is. This is why I say it's not good to cling to high showings. Because of scans like the above. Stop it!!! Right now!!!