Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The Covington Catholic High School students were there representing their school, their faith, and their Pro-Life convictions. They should have been on their absolute best behavior.Instead, they are on video calling women "sluts" and telling them "It's not rape if you enjoy it," then getting in a pissing match with a extremist group on an active hate watch, before taunting Native American demonstrators with mock rain dances and tomahawk chops.
It does not matter who started it, who instigated it, etc. Because at the end of the day, you cannot control how other people behave, you can only control how you behave in response to it. Bad behavior does not justify bad behavior, no matter how old you are.
Their reputation and the reputation of their school, and their Christian and Pro-Life witness are worthless now, because the chaperones who were with them were encouraging them to accelerate the situation instead of decelerate it. The adults are on camera telling the Black Hebrew Israelites that "Jesus was white" and high-fiving each other.
I mentioned before, and I will mention again because this point is continuously overlooked, that they were mixing it up with a known violent extremist group, and could have been seriously hurt. That is why Pro-Life Action League states in its own directives to not engage counter-demonstrators, and to always move to safety and contact authorities if you are being harassed.
These boys did not have a permit to be there at that time. They were not when and where they were supposed to be on that day. They had no right to be there, let alone engaging in the sort of behavior that is document up to, and including, the confrontation with the Indigenous Peoples March.
They did the wrong thing, regardless of any other circumstances. They were not trapped. They were not threatened. They could have chosen not to engage. They could have chosen to remove themselves from the situation, especially considering that they did not have permission to be there in the first place.
Instead these boys felt empowered to challenge a group of hostile grown men. Why do you think that is? Perhaps it has something to do with why they felt empowered to catcall women, to post disgusting things about women on Twitter, and generally behave like entitled little degenerates, while on a trip representing their school and their Christianity.
I was listening to a conservative Christian talk radio program this morning that is an affiliate of a designated hate group—that is how extreme they are—and even they condemned these boys for their behavior. So what does that say about all of you defending it?
There are always bad apples in a bunch, especially when we are talking about hundreds of kids. I agree they should have been in their best behavior. But kids misbehaving should not come as a surprise. It’s one thing to think they are behaving like little shits, but the outrage (from the media/celebs/leftists/etc) seems a bit disengenouos to me.
Best I saw about a woman getting harassed (https://youtu.be/0YEuxB8RAyE) didn’t hear the “it’s not rape if if you enjoy it” crack, mostly gibberish and “MAGAAA”. Granted that makes those specific students into little turds and I’m right beside you in calling those little turds out. But let’s judge ppl not with collective guilt but as individuals, shall we?
Actually, ppl who react badly thru harassment or personal attacks can react a variety of ways. Does it justify their actions? No. But ppl are ppl and they deal with attacks differently. We don’t approve what they do, but (depending on the circumstances) we can understand it. Imagine if a black guy punched a Klansman after the Klansman called him the N-word, of course they were both behaving badly, but at least we can get why the black guy reacted the way he did.
Also, if you can please give me a straight answer with what you deemed “bad behavior” was with the smirk-y kid, I would more than love to listen to your reasoning (honestly, I am keeping an open mind here). But as it is, simply calling something bad behavior doesn’t make it so.
Well, the adults behaving that way would have been better news fodder. And I, personally, would have 100% just mosseyed on by if the story was about condemnation on racist adults talking trash with other racist adults. Sadly, we get outrage focused on a smirking kid. That doesn’t go too well with me, tbh.
I disagree about the whole “reputation” thing, though. If anything, it hurt the media (and the celebs who jumped the gun) far more than it hurt the school’s rep. As, it being a Christian school, those that would condemn them (left leaning folks) would have not liked them in the first place and more right leaning folks would be focused on the media. The real damage was with centrists (even some ppl from the left) that beared witness to the irresponsibility and dishonesty of the leftist media and has lost some faith in it.
They were waiting for their bus. They didn’t need a permit for that I’m thinking? And while it was certainly irresponsible for them to engage, them being rabidly harassed by the BI, can’t say I blame their reaction.
I find your reasoning disingenouos, tbh. Could they. have done better? Oh most defintely. You are right, they should have acted like the better persons and walked away. And 2 wrongs do not make a right. But they are not terrible ppl for standing their ground and defending themselves. The “outrage” from the media, the celebs, the left and even some posters here was sorely misplaced. If you could only admit to that, we can then agree on the things we can agree on and walk away from this silliness.
Well, you shouldn’t be listening to hate groups. They don’t usually do a lot of research before spouting their opinion. Tho, I can’t say I can put a lot of stock on your comment as it is an “I heard” analogy and you leave out way too much detail.
As for “what it says”. Well, I can’t speak for other ppl. I can only speak for myself. As it is, I find the logic for condemning smirk-y kid a bit iffy (understatement). And since I couldn’t get a straight answer, I have been left to my own devices and my own interpretations. As it is, I can’t really say he did anything wrong. I am keeping an open mind, however, and if you can give me details on why you think he is what you say he is, then I am willing to 100% listen, no judgement. Fair enough?