NYC Leftists Ready to Legalize FULL MURDER!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Silent Master
You keep ignoring how vague the law is written, which multiple people have pointed out. so just to be clear if the mother states that her "mental health" would be effected. you are ok with a 1 second before birth late-term abortion?

Originally posted by snowdragon
How hard is it to understand the language of this law isn't just about life at risk due to how the word "health" is interpreted by the previous court cases.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Are you feigning ignorance or being disengenuous here man? We’ve already stated the problem we have with how vague the law is written and the previous court cases that defined what that can constitute.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep he seems to be ignoring this.

Give women some credit, for ****'s sake.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
How many women do you expect to go through the entire pregnancy then choose to abort at the point of birth, citing some half-assed bullshit excuse about their health?

Give women some credit, for ****'s sake.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
👆 Good Post

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
How many women do you expect to go through the entire pregnancy then choose to abort at the point of birth, citing some half-assed bullshit excuse about their health?

Give women some credit, for ****'s sake.

And I do give women credit. But not all ppl are good and so we need to create laws that prevent the BAD ppl from doing bad things. That’s why we have laws in first place for FFS.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
And I do give women credit. But not all ppl are good and so we need to create laws that prevent the BAD ppl from doing bad things. That’s why we have laws in first place for FFS.

I'll ask again:

How many women do you expect to go through with the entire 9-month pregnancy and all of the unpleasantness that must go with it, only to choose to abort via completely insincere worries about their own health?

You say you give women credit, but then you go on about how bad women will abuse the third-trimester abortion option. Doesn't sound like you're giving them much credit when you've already decided that they'd be bad people for doing so unless it were absolutely life or death.

double post.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
The “negligible minority” is what laws are all about. Not all of us are murderers but we have laws against murder for a reason.

Does it matter how many? Not all laws are designed to affect all ppl. This line of logic is silly.

There are a shit load of people who have murdered, have attempted murder, or have committed manslaughter. I'd wager they'd make up a much larger chunk of the population than women who'd abuse the third trimester abortion for shits, giggles, and general cuntery.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I think you're focusing in on a very negligible minority.

I'll ask again:

How many women do you expect to go through with the entire 9-month pregnancy and all of the unpleasantness that must go with it, only to choose to abort via completely insincere worries about their own health?

You say you give women credit, but then you go on about how bad women will abuse the third-trimester abortion option. Doesn't sound like you're giving them much credit when you've already decided that they'd be bad people for doing so unless it were absolutely life or death.

The “negligible minority” is what laws are all about. Not all of us are murderers but we have laws against murder for a reason.

Does it matter how many? Not all laws are designed to affect all ppl. This line of logic is silly.

Edit. And nice attempt at misreprenting my position. Have you been reading the posts here or are you just trying to strawman ppl? Because I’m pretty certain everyone here have agreed that abortion up to birth is acceptable IF it is life or death.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
There are a shit load of people who have murdered, have attempted murder, or have committed manslaughter. I'd wager they'd make up a much larger chunk of the population than women who'd abuse the third trimester abortion for shits, giggles, and general cuntery.

Irrelevant. Laws are created to establish limits to what we can do and those limits can be pretty extreme and pretty rare but they still need to be set. Again, this logic is silly and your attempts at humorizing my position is tacky and petty.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
The “negligible minority” is what laws are all about. Not all of us are murderers but we have laws against murder for a reason.

Does it matter how many? Not all laws are designed to affect all ppl. This line of logic is silly.

Edit. And nice attempt at misreprenting my position. Have you been reading the posts here or are you just trying to strawman ppl? Because I’m pretty certain everyone here have agreed that abortion up to birth is acceptable IF it is life or death.

How did that hanging off a cliff scenario work out for you?

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
How many women do you expect to go through the entire pregnancy then choose to abort at the point of birth, citing some half-assed bullshit excuse about their health?

Give women some credit, for ****'s sake.

So you're ok with it. as long as it's only a "negligible minority".

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
If you want to talk about misrepresenting positions, explain to me how you took my reference earlier in the thread to a living organism growing inside a woman as biological property for her to accept or reject, and somehow arriving to the conclusion that that notion could be used to justify things like slavery and genocide?

How did that hanging off a cliff scenario work out for you?

Because ppl are biological organisms and that certain types of ppl were at one point of time seen as property or less than human? If you cannot draw the parallels here then you might not be all that smart.

There were issues with the hanging scenario that was never answered and the nuances (such as a the “unbearable pain” defense) that seem to differentiate the scenarios from one another so progressing the discussion was pointless (as DG said, the devil was in the details). What does that have to do with anything?

Edit. Nice whattaboutism btw. You at least know that ppl are not arguing against life or death here now, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're ok with it. as long as it's only a "negligible minority".

I'm also pretty sure you're trying to spin this back around in support of unrestricted gun ownership and gun fetishes of all sorts, except that guns are easily and readily abused for crime, vendettas, and sometimes just because some ******* thought it would be fun to shoot people.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Yes

That's all you had to say.

Cut out the rest as it had nothing to do with the question.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Yes, I'm ok with third trimester abortions which I'm sure will be 99.999999% of the time used as a last resort, and not just because the mother changed her mind at the last second or simply wanted to kill her baby.

So why TF are you arguing with us when none of us are against the former. We are against the latter and want to law to be less vague so that the latter could be prevented.

facepalm

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Because ppl are biological organisms and that certain types of ppl were at one point of time seen as property or less than human? If you cannot draw the parallels here then you might not be all that smart.

There were issues with the hanging scenario that was never answered and the nuances (such as a the “unbearable pain” defense) that seem to differentiate the scenarios from one another so progressing the discussion was pointless (as DG said, the devil was in the details). What does that have to do with anything?

Edit. Nice whattaboutism btw. You at least know that ppl are not arguing against life or death here now, right?

While you can make the argument that that dehumanizes the fetus/child/baby/clump of cells/whatever to a degree, it's a complete stretch to say that it dehumanizes human life so much that it could be used to justify slavery and genocide... Third trimester abortions will not make a case for slavery and genocide.

I know we're not talking about life or death anymore. We're nitpicking at what possible excuses some absolutely horrid women out there who would go through with a nine-month pregnancy and wait until their children are almost born just to mercilessly have killed them might use.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's all you had to say.

Cut out the rest as it had nothing to do with the question.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
So why TF are you arguing with us when none of us are against the former. We are against the latter and want to law to be less vague so that the latter could be prevented.

facepalm

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Just admit I was right about where you were taking that line of thought.

If you were right, I would have.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you were right, I would have.