Originally posted by Deadline
Oh ok....
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Originally posted by Senor Cage
As a student of the All-Caste, Jason was able to last longer against Cassandra than Dick Grayson who was owned. Don't sleep on Jason's skills. He got a pretty big push since Lobdell took over his character
Ok but I'm pretty sure I saw one fight with Grayson with Batgirl where he did well and Grayson seems to have gotten better since then. I'd still bet on Batroc being better in h2h.
Originally posted by Deadline
Ok but I'm pretty sure I saw one fight with Grayson with Batgirl where he did well and Grayson seems to have gotten better since then. I'd still bet on Batroc being better in h2h.
This was during the Batman Eternal series. Cassandra pretty much handed his ass. Batman also stated that Cassandra is probably better than he. I know Jason highly relies on his gear (armor and weapons), but he doesn't currently have that, which makes this fight a bit even.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
This was during the Batman Eternal series. Cassandra pretty much handed his ass. Batman also stated that Cassandra is probably better than he. I know Jason highly relies on his gear (armor and weapons), but he doesn't currently have that, which makes this fight a bit even.
No gears he's losing. Batrock has done well against Captain America and Captain America is better than Batman and Batgirl. Not really sure there is a lot of evdience to prove that Batgirl is better than Batman. Ok anyway that's one fight were he got his butt handed to him when he's done well, I bet there were circumstances to the fight.
Originally posted by Deadline
No gears he's losing. Batrock has done well against Captain America and Captain America is better than Batman and Batgirl. Not really sure there is a lot of evdience to prove that Batgirl is better than Batman. Ok anyway that's one fight were he got his butt handed to him when he's done well, I bet there were circumstances to the fight.
Not a lot, just Batman's opinion, which should not be taken lightly.
With gear, Jason definitely has the edge. His armor withstood a nuke, Frankenstein's blows, Bane, etc...
But, we're just using current Todd here.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Not a lot, just Batman's opinion, which should not be taken lightly.With gear, Jason definitely has the edge. His armor withstood a nuke, Frankenstein's blows, Bane, etc...
But, we're just using current Todd here.
I gotta say man it kinda looks like Grayson had never met her before and clearly wasn't expecting her to be so good.
Batman isn't at the top anymore, as confirmed by Tom King and Tynion.
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I'd put Tim over Steph and Duke, and Bruce over Dick, but otherwise this seems pretty dead on.