Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Like taint, Carver bases his life around a dozen or so scans. Methinks this one is #8..
Lol... well I could've posted him stomping the Avengers and taking out a group of Builders while also defeating Aleph but I posted a recent scan for him...
Originally posted by carver9
Killed a Beyonder.
That's nothing....Thor and Hype were killing dozens 🙂
Rebirth is the same as pre 52. Mod ruling 🙂
So I see you have nothing, lol. Did he DEFEAT the Avengers?
Originally posted by carver91). There's no such thing as "Rebirth Superman", as he's the same Superman since 1986.
Now my question goes back to Saint. Name a powerful character Rebirth Superman have defeated.
"lolololol"
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's nothing....Thor and Hype were killing dozens 🙂Rebirth is the same as pre 52. Mod ruling 🙂
So I see you have nothing, lol. Did he DEFEAT the Avengers?
Scans of Thor and Hype KILLING Beyonders.
So you have nothing for Rebirth Superman? I'm sure you can post at least ONE powerful opponent hes defeated since rebirth...hes been active for a while now.
In no way shape form or fashion does your imgur pic state that planetary is where he maxes out. It said he needs the power to destroy a planet to defend one. Basically inferring that that's his power steering minimum
destroying even one Ivory King is a feat past planetary. Carol can wreck a planet at base but can't beat a Ivory King
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
In no way shape form or fashion does your imgur pic state that planetary is where he maxes out. It said he needs the power to destroy a planet to defend one. Basically inferring that that's his power steering minimumdestroying even one Ivory King is a feat past planetary. Carol can wreck a planet at base but can't beat a Ivory King
Exactly and it doesnt even matter because using statements, Superman himself even admits he cant destroy a planet. The showing he posted with the planet exploding... its debatable if he was even on the planet when that happened. It's crazy that he quotes statements from the Avengers title when statements made within JLA books are far worse.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilHis power is specifically designed to be planetary-level.
In no way shape form or fashion does your imgur pic state that planetary is where he maxes out.
Here it is again:
https://imgur.com/a/xrFfJvm
Read some comics, kido.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilQuite the contrary, we saw his functional full power as being a few dozen nukes, nowhere near that. Balls-to-the-wall he is planetary.
Basically inferring that that's his power steering minimum
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilNo, it is not.
destroying even one Ivory King is a feat past planetary.
Originally posted by carver9My cowardly "i sit on the sidelines and hope somebody helps me" friend, statements? We have actual, raw numbers of Starbrand's full power, directly stated, compared to nukes. He is far below planetary when not exploding his power in totality, and then he is planet-busting at his utmost limit.
Exactly and it doesnt even matter because using statements, Superman himself even admits he cant destroy a planet. The showing he posted with the planet exploding... its debatable if he was even on the planet when that happened. It's crazy that he quotes statements from the Avengers title when statements made within JLA books are far worse.
Okay, let's do this slowly. This is super early Starbrand, who obviously doesn't even know who he is. Or what he is. Since then he's had above planetary feats. Beyond that, you don't need to be any specific power level to beat Clark. You just have to be able to exploit a weakness. His psychic resistance is shit. Jean Grey could stop him. He's susceptible to draining or other energy manipulation. His magic resistance is no higher than anyone elses (it's technically not a "weakness" like people say.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilI'm not slowing down, just so you can keep up.
Okay, let's do this slowly.
Speaking of slow, you should start posting in your battlezone.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilThis is not Starbrand talking:
This is super early Starbrand, who obviously doesn't even know who he is. Or what he is.
"To properly defend a thing, it requires an amount of energy equaling what's needed to destroy a thing. Defending a planet requires the ability to destroy one"
His total energy is specifically equal to the power necessary to destroy the Earth.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilNo, kid.
Since then he's had above planetary feats.
The feat you used? Against the Beyonder?
It is specifically stated to use his entire power capable of destroying a planet.
Kevin: "In killing me, the Beyonder doomed himself -- UNLEASHING the cosmic power of the Starbrand [...] I never wanted this... The power to protect or destroy A WORLD.":
Kevin: "If I blow, it's not a Beyonder that buys it... It's the ENTIRE PLANET EARTH! [...] I never wanted this... The power to protect or destroy A WORLD.":
Kevin: "Last, reabsorb ALL THAT STARBRAND ENERGY... So that I don't blow up THE WORLD!":
As I said, read some comics, and stop wasting my time.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilSo you're trolling now?
Beyond that, you don't need to be any specific power level to beat Clark. You just have to be able to exploit a weakness. His psychic resistance is shit.
You're boring me.
Shoosh.
Go in exile for a while, start expanding your knowledge, and then come back in a few years and say hello.
Nah, I didn't forget, I'll post soon
Why do you think Statement means That's the limit to his power
Abstracts couldn't beat an Beyonder, but Starbrand beating one doesn't impress you in the slightest? show me a beyonder getting beat by anybody else in a fight they got rid of them by setting off there own molecule man bombs
If other planets can be destroyed by the total energy required to destroy the Earth, then he can destroy them.
Stop asking stupid questions, celey.
Don't make me regret 'clicking here'.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Nah, I didn't forget, I'll post soonWhy do you think Statement means That's the limit to his power
Abstracts couldn't beat an Beyonder, but Starbrand beating one doesn't impress you in the slightest? show me a beyonder getting beat by anybody else in a fight they got rid of them by setting off there own molecule man bombs
He is literally made to have the total energy to destroy Earth.
When he destroyed the Beyonder, he was literally stated to have done so with the totality of his planet busting power.
You're.
Boring.
Me.
Seriously. The scans are right there. I have a game to watch in a few moments, and you're wasting my time.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17As I've said before, him stating or being stated to have the power to destroy a planet doesn't necessarily mean he's relegated to having must that amount of power(planet busting).
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For starters a team of Avengers were basically ineffectual against him the very day he became Starbrand._ Three of which are three of the most powerful heroes and each with planetary and beyond feats(Thor, Hulk, Hyperion)._
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He's also faced off against the restless spirit of a "Monster God of the Cosmos"._ A sentient sun for all intents and purposes who was going to turn earth into a new sun(new body)..__
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After forcibly disconnecting Kolobus from its human host, we see it's true form._ Since it's literally the essence of sentient sun, it's not surprising that its true size dwarfs the earth._ It even considers the Starbrand some sort of cosmic peer.
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Heck in your own scans he faced off 3 villains channeling the power of abstracts. Three of Eternity's children… Explosion spirit of the big bang, Gravitation spirit of the big crunch, and Entropy spirit of the big freeze.
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And they were literally trying to kill him. He fought them for two issues and held out long enough for Nightmask to sever their connection to their human proxies. Consequently he owned the three cassually after the connection loss.
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http://oi64.tinypic.com/2mhezja.jpgAnd just for reference Kolobus the sentient sun was unable to hold back the Starbrand of Kree Pama. Kinda helps put things into perspective.
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http://oi68.tinypic.com/2nvtsmx.jpgLet's look.
He's been portrayed beyond some of the most powerful heralds as a rookie which he still is btw.
He's faced off a sentient sun.
He's survived against three bloodlusted abstracts.
He's atomized the physical form of a beyonder.
He has cassually destroyed almost the entire Builder fleet.So all in all relegating Starbrand to just "planetary power" just doesn’t jive when you look at his feats. What does "planetary power" even mean?
Originally posted by Philosophía
1). There's no such thing as "Rebirth Superman", as he's the same Superman since 1986.
2). Starbrand has at his absolute max, the ability to destroy a planet:
http://i.imgur.com/wWZRZYT.png
3). But functional full-power, along with the combined power of Hyperion, Blue Marvel, Spectrum and Jane Thor is only about 200 nukes:
https://imgur.com/a/VlK4chq
4). Superman has no-sold plantary level explosion mid-sentence:
https://imgur.com/a/q67TkBl
5). In that form, Beyonders were weak sauce, and were turned into trees, shattered en-masse etc."lolololol"
Lowballs in the air anyone have a bat?
