Originally posted by dadudemon
Look at you, being racist. Lando, the intelligent leader and black man, was also there to rescue Han. But you conveniently forgot about the black man who was also there to rescue Han. You also forgot that all "male" figures in this operation were weak and captured: Chewie, Han, Lando, and both male-gendered droids.You also failed to mention that Leia also murdered the one that enslaved her. With her bare-hands and a chain. And this was all part of the plan to rescue Han. In your quest to one-up Surtur and virtue signal about how woke you are, you ended up being sexist and racist, in two short sentences.
In Obi Wan Kenobi's wise words:
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Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you have any evidence of this?I remember posting that she gained weight and that they used filming from both Ep 7 and Ep 8 because you can see the thinner "Jakku" version of her in some scenes in Ep 8.
And, no, she wasn't fat. I never said that. Weight gain does not always equal "fat."
You may find this hard to believe, but I don't center every post I make on you/your thoughts
Originally posted by SurturGargoyles. Never forget Gargoyles.
The Batman cartoon, the Superman cartoon. Batman Beyond. X-Men cartoon.Ren and Stimpy.
I loved that song, "Spring Cleaning."
Rocko's Modern Life.
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@victreebelvictr (cuz for some reason I couldn't quote your post):
The 1930s had some great stuff, notably the Fleischer toons, especially the Betty Boop toons with Cab Calloway. Before there was Michael Jackson, before even James Brown, there was Cab.
When I was a wee lad, I also liked watching the Farmer Al Falfa toons. Some of those are now over a century old and even more fascinating to watch.
Originally posted by Robtard
You may find this hard to believe, but I don't center every post I make on you/your thoughts
Yes but I notice you didn't post a link about your claim and since you and I specifically interacted on this topic. Also, I consumed quite a few anti-Ep 8 YouTube videos and didn't run across what you were talking about.
I can only logically and reasonably assume you were specifically talking about me - hardly pretentious on my part.
Originally posted by Mindship
Gargoyles. Never forget Gargoyles.I loved that song, "Spring Cleaning."
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[b]@victreebelvictr
(cuz for some reason I couldn't quote your post):The 1930s had some great stuff, notably the Fleischer toons, especially the Betty Boop toons with Cab Calloway. Before there was Michael Jackson, before even James Brown, there was Cab.
When I was a wee lad, I also liked watching the Farmer Al Falfa toons. Some of those are now over a century old and even more fascinating to watch. [/B]
Use quick quote.
Edit - I'll see if I can find my post about this.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And quickquote has the post ID. Quote someone else's post that you can quote, replace the name and post ID, and replace the post content. Then do the standard editing thing where you copy and past the forum tags if you wish to address specific points.This step adds about 15-30 seconds to responding so it can get annoying if you are trying to respond to a short post. Just quick quote. But if you are going to be responding to an in depth post, just spending the extra time responding and follow my directions.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No way.There´s no way that you have magical powers.
It’s just impossible.
You're lying.
You used the quick quote button instead of quote.
Originally posted by dadudemon
In this post, I used 3 different forms of “apostrophes.”On purpose. To show that only the classic Unicode apostrophe works.
It’s the one that is straight up and down.
Originally posted by Mindship
Gargoyles. Never forget Gargoyles.I loved that song, "Spring Cleaning."
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[b]@victreebelvictr
(cuz for some reason I couldn't quote your post):The 1930s had some great stuff, notably the Fleischer toons, especially the Betty Boop toons with Cab Calloway. Before there was Michael Jackson, before even James Brown, there was Cab.
When I was a wee lad, I also liked watching the Farmer Al Falfa toons. Some of those are now over a century old and even more fascinating to watch. [/B]
I loved Gargoyles.
Let's not forget about the really old Popeye cartoons that played prior to movies, that is a walk back into history. If you like looking back at something interesting look up old recipes or an old recipe book then look at historical events during that time and see if you can explain why they used what for cooking. 💃
Originally posted by dadudemonThnx.
Use quick quote.Edit - I'll see if I can find my post about this.
Originally posted by snowdragonGargoyles had great writing, great character development, a great story line (at least until they went off on that Avalon thing, imo).
I loved Gargoyles.
Let's not forget about the really old Popeye cartoons ...
Originally posted by snowdragonI imagine we were quite clever with what we had to work with. IIRC, Granny of Beverly Hillbillies made some great possum.
If you like looking back at something interesting look up old recipes or an old recipe book then look at historical events during that time and see if you can explain why they used what for cooking. 💃
Female character: OP, intelligent, independant, can stand up for herself, can get d!ck, she just don't want it.
She's a fvcking Mary Sue! POLITICAL CORRRRECTNESS! My kids and my Johnson are insulted!
Male character: OP, intelligent, independant, stands up for himself, gets all the pussie.
WOW... What a man! Respect him! If I were a queer man, my Johnson would rise for him. But lo, I am not for I am just too masculine!
Originally posted by MythLord
Female character: OP, intelligent, independant, can stand up for herself, can get d!ck, she just don't want it.
She's a fvcking Mary Sue! POLITICAL CORRRRECTNESS! My kids and my Johnson are insulted!Male character: OP, intelligent, independant, stands up for himself, gets all the pussie.
WOW... What a man! Respect him! If I were a queer man, my Johnson would rise for him. But lo, I am not for I am just too masculine!
BING 😆
Originally posted by MythLord
Female character: OP, intelligent, independant, can stand up for herself, can get d!ck, she just don't want it.
She's a fvcking Mary Sue! POLITICAL CORRRRECTNESS! My kids and my Johnson are insulted!Male character: OP, intelligent, independant, stands up for himself, gets all the pussie.
WOW... What a man! Respect him! If I were a queer man, my Johnson would rise for him. But lo, I am not for I am just too masculine!
Except this all falls apart when people call, almost exclusively, male characters "Mary Sue."
In fact, the first time I've seen Mary Sue used as a reference for a female character (outside of the original reference) was for Rey in Star Wars.
There's plenty of people that broke down the reasons why Rey is a Mary Sue SJW Disney waaaaaynk.
Originally posted by MythLord
Female character: OP, intelligent, independant, can stand up for herself, can get d!ck, she just don't want it.
She's a fvcking Mary Sue! POLITICAL CORRRRECTNESS! My kids and my Johnson are insulted!Male character: OP, intelligent, independant, stands up for himself, gets all the pussie.
WOW... What a man! Respect him! If I were a queer man, my Johnson would rise for him. But lo, I am not for I am just too masculine!
Nah, male characters can be Mary Sue's too. Peter Petrelli from Heroes is one.
Wonder Woman wasn't called a mary sue. Nor were the strong independent black women from Black Panther.
Originally posted by MythLord
Female character: OP, intelligent, independant, can stand up for herself, can get d!ck, she just don't want it.
She's a fvcking Mary Sue! POLITICAL CORRRRECTNESS! My kids and my Johnson are insulted!Male character: OP, intelligent, independant, stands up for himself, gets all the pussie.
WOW... What a man! Respect him! If I were a queer man, my Johnson would rise for him. But lo, I am not for I am just too masculine!
Anakin is the Chosen One, the point is that he's born with a greater potential than anyone else. Yet he trains for a decade, and even then he gets his ass handed to him in Attack of the Clones. It takes him till the third movie in his trilogy to actually defeat one of the main villains in a duel (ie. Dooku). His power feels earned. Plus he actually has a character. His fear of losing his loved ones plagues him throughout his entire trilogy and culminates in his fall to the Dark Side. He starts off idolizing the Jedi, then struggles with the reality of what they are and becomes cynical about them, then somewhat matures and readjusts to admiration, then has his faith in them completely destroyed.
Luke has a crazy wild potential too, yet the farthest he gets in the first movie of his trilogy is deflecting shit from the training droid, and making that shot that takes down the death star. In the second movie of his trilogy he has to undergo some serious training on Dagobah, is shown struggling, and at the end of his second movie he gets thrashed by Vader. Then in the third movie he finally earns his victory over Vader. He also has his own character arc, he starts off in the first movie as a farmboy craving adventure n shit, and he has the feel throughout the movie as if he's someone whose taken their first steps into a larger world, and at the end of it learns to trust the Force in kinda a pivotal moment where he has something more tempting to rely on. In the second movie of his trilogy he deals with a lot of shit, training with Yoda, failing in a lot of instances to accept his wisdom, has not just naivete but immaturity to deal with, and at the end of the movie he gets ****ed up by the realization that Darth Vader is his father. Then we get to the third movie in his trilogy and he's a lot more seasoned and wise, self-controlled, and he has to deal with facing Vader and trying to redeem him and pushing back against his own temptations towards the dark side.
With Rey, she starts off, knows immediately how to fix the Millennium Falcon when Han Solo didn't. Without any training she rebukes Kylo and peers into his mind, almost instantly figures out how to mind **** people, then at the end of her very first movie humiliates the main antagonist in a fight. Then in the second movie she does some training, and is suddenly portrayed as Kylo's rough equal... the grandson of Darth Vader who trained under Luke for far longer and then Snoke... in the second movie. Her power just doesn't feel remotely as earned as the other two protagonists.
And then there's her character. She vaguely deals with her parents and her abandonment issues for two movies and it doesn't really lead anywhere (contrast that with Anakin leaving his mom in episode 1, then his dreams about her and her dying in episode 2, or to Luke's familial shit with Darth Vader). She, unlike Luke is stepping into a larger world but doesn't really seem phased in the same way. She like Luke, has her trust in the Force moment at the end of her first movie, only it's while she's dueling someone with a lightsaber where the Force is the obvious and only answer, whereas Luke was seriously tempted to rely on the targeting computer. She trains with Luke, learns some things, but is more put in her place by him on her understanding of what the force is or how to use it, not so much on her character in which she is portrayed as right. And then she has her Luke-Vader moment where she tries to redeem Kylo, which isn't as investing as Luke's relationship with his own father.
Literally every part of her character arc worth mentioning is a pale copy of Luke's character arc without as many emotional stakes or character growth that isn't executed as well. Her relationship with Kylo is the most interesting thing about her in that regard, and that's partly due to the fact that for all the shit he gets Kylo Ren is a genuinely interesting character with more of a character arc and more character than Rey has.
The issue with not with a strong whamen, it's with the writing and execution of Rey as a character and the fact that her power doesn't feel earned and her character doesn't have any serious stakes. There are plenty of strong female Star Wars characters that are actually fan favorites, ie. Leia, Ahsoka, or if we want to get into the EU people like Mara Jade, Satele Shan was appreciated as all **** when the SWTOR trailers came out but the hype for her kinda died out when the game itself made her virtually irrelevant.
Originally posted by MythLord
Female character: OP, intelligent, independant, can stand up for herself, can get d!ck, she just don't want it.
She's a fvcking Mary Sue! POLITICAL CORRRRECTNESS! My kids and my Johnson are insulted!Male character: OP, intelligent, independant, stands up for himself, gets all the pussie.
WOW... What a man! Respect him! If I were a queer man, my Johnson would rise for him. But lo, I am not for I am just too masculine!
The fact that you have to leave out context in order to make your argument is proof that you know that your argument doesn't hold up.