galactus invades OA

Started by abhilegend12 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
abhi, stop.

The scan explicitly refers to those "nodes" as "POWER SOURCES". Hence why the Anvil couldn't be used without first accessing those "POWER SOURCES". Hence why Reed freaked out over the Anvil's energy output after ALL FOUR of those "POWER SOURCES" were channeled.

Don't keep doing... What you're doing.


Doing what? Adult Franklin straight up says that the sol's anvil channels sun's power through fixed points which are buttressed by earth.

The comic even shows sun's energy striking celestials after it was absorbed by Sol's anvil. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that I'm wrong here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There you go with the circlejerk again.

Let's see if I can post some "universal feats".

That enough for you?

creating pocket universes is a feat now? show actual feats Galan hasn't demonstrated to do

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doing what? Adult Franklin straight up says that the sol's anvil channels sun's power through fixed points which are buttressed by earth.

The comic even shows sun's energy striking celestials after it was absorbed by Sol's anvil. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that I'm wrong here.

No, it means that you're completely ignoring the rest of the information just because you're trying to lowball.

Did the Anvil tap into the sun's energy? YES. Was the sun its *only* power source? NO. We were explicitly told...in black & white...that the Anvil also has FOUR additional "POWER SOURCES" that it channels.

The fact that you keep pretending like this information doesn't exist is ridiculous.

in order to satiate his hunger, Galactus created a star sized black hole that was going consume the universe and all of space and time and feed it to himself in order to satiate his limitless hunger:

Originally posted by Galan007
No, it means that you're completely ignoring the rest of the information just because you're trying to lowball.

Did the Anvil tap into the sun's energy? YES. Was the sun its *only* power source? NO. We were explicitly told...in black & white...that the Anvil also has FOUR additional "POWER SOURCES" that it channels.

The fact that you keep pretending like this information doesn't exist is ridiculous.


Yes, it was stated to be channeling only sun's power. The rest were fixed points and Earth buttressed it.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LZ3AJsdUi_g/Vkrq5t-iotI/AAAAAAAAIJg/msu5XkhmtUM/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

Do tell me, what are the fixed points? And if this was so clearly said, why did Franklin made no mention of it?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
in order to satiate his hunger, Galactus created a star sized black hole that was going consume the universe and all of space and time and feed it to himself in order to satiate his limitless hunger:


Alternate future kid.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
creating pocket universes is a feat now? show actual feats Galan hasn't demonstrated to do

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, it was stated to be channeling only sun's power. The rest were fixed points and Earth buttressed it.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LZ3AJsdUi_g/Vkrq5t-iotI/AAAAAAAAIJg/msu5XkhmtUM/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

Do tell me, what are the fixed points? And if this was so clearly said, why did Franklin made no mention of it?

Yes, abhi... Keep pretending like none of this exists:

Originally posted by Galan007
Okay, I don't see how we're still acting like Sol's Anvil *only* channeled a fraction of the sun's energy..?

It was explicitly stated on panel that the Negative Zone was only ONE of FOUR additional "POWER SOURCES" for the Anvil:

*The energy to power the Anvil comes from a stable geothermal vent under Old Atlantis, a dynamo in the Blue Area of the moon, and the High Evolutionary's Ascension Engine, all focused through a portal to the Negative Zone.

And as we learned early in Hickman's run, all of these "POWER SOURCES" rest on a common, intertwined axis(which also helps explain why those particular sources were chosen to power the Anvil):

**For what it's worth, note the bottom equation- [b]"Height of energy: infinitysquared"

And just before the Merged Celestial was blasted, ALL FOUR of those additional "POWER SOURCES" were channeled by the Anvil:

Hence Reed's comment after said "POWER SOURCES" were being focused: "Powering up the weapon. Accessing nodes [...] It's on. Energy readings are steady, and... My God, the power of this thing."

C'mon now... ermm [/B]

*sighs*

good thing Galan could just mind **** the lanterns, too.

Let us not forget that it's not only brute strength that could destroy a Green Lantern ring those who are stronger by their own conviction and will can also destroy the Lantern ring and even repel it with no problem

Superhuman level characters can make it into dust

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, this is very large circlejerk. "How powerful are Mad Celestials? They beat Galactus!!!!, how powerful was this Galactus? He beat a mad celestial!!!! Ok, how powerful was this mad celestial? Umm, it was destroyed by Sol's anvil!!!! Ok, how powerful was this sol's anvil? It was beyond 9000!!!!

Except it is just the energy of the sun.

When you write the next Galactus story, you should've added that.

Yeah, nobody can drain Galactus. Isn't that right?

If only you could write this imaginary version of Galactus!!!

we've beaten the anvil bit to death. we know you can't accept our explanation because it does your lowballing no good. so, for a change of pace, let's follow abhi's line of logic for a second and suppose the weapon really does focus just the power of the sun, as he's repeatedly said. now i know you don't know much about science abhi, but via WORK (ie in the science sense of work) concentrated sunlight can, in theory, reach PLANK levels of temperature (you know, big bang/universal creation levels) and beyond, were infinity a real-life concept. we can't do it of course, but we're not the council of reeds, and we don't live in a comic universe where infinity DOES exist to varying degrees. anyway, it's basically the same real-life process that allows the sun's corona to reach a few million degrees. i suspect hickman maybe had some inkling of this and that maybe explains the infinity symbol in galan's scan. mmm

thinking about it now, i actually like YOUR interpretation better. fits hickman's science-based writing better. ok abhi, you've genuinely convinced me. it really was the focused power of the sun, concentrated to big bang levels of power. ie--the voltron celestial was broken by a universal level blast. mission accomplished abhi. you really are a genius. 👆

as for how powerful the celestials were--i went over this with zop, and he already beat you to the lowballing, so i'll let the 2 of you huddle together under a blanky and whisper stories of lowballing together. you can regale each other with tales of the celestials being herald level, or sue's force fields being universal level or whatever gets the 2 of you warm and fuzzy. the intent of the writer was crystal clear to anyone not wearing their idiot goggles. i mean it's not like marvel has creditted the celestials with creating the MULTIVERSE through sheer will, right? i mean, that puts them above even *GULP* universe-building hal!!1! damn, bet he wished he used his universe power when prime casually broke his arm when they met in IC.
or maybe he could have helped with the wall that prime smashed through and hundreds of gl's built?

wait, wait, so does that mean the reserve titans>300 gl's? must be. the titans are also>2 guardians (see below), since they actually ko'd prime. hmm. that's a puzzler. so: titans>2 guardians>4 planet galactus.

abhi/zop logic ftw!

do you honestly NOT see how stupid you sound?

as far as your galactus scan--typically an irrelevant strawman. wraithworld is MAGIC-based. the guardians are able to use the same type of magic as the sorcerous black sun? really? scans of the guardians using sorcery?

re: the guardian vs prime:

https://imgur.com/a/lz9v9Fc

lol TWO guardians attack him at the same time. what does he do? laughs in their faces and proceeds to choke out the guardian (though it looks like he is going to rip his head off). the guardians's solution. die so he can BFR prime! lol stupid guardians should have called the titans. 👆

so, if all the guardians surround galactus and kill themselves as an attack, i'll grant you they might be able to win via BFR. then again, his entire life force couldn't kill prime who did what again....? ABSORBED IT! on second thought, maybe that shouldn't be an option for them....

because guess what galactus does:

https://imgur.com/a/VfZGq0G

thrives on energy in ALL its forms. what's worse, we see how easily galactus can use ANTI-MATTER. and, well, the guardians do NOT like antimatter...

https://imgur.com/a/ov6fzlO

she died of course.

tl:dr lol

to sum up, thanks to you and zop, we have celestials as herald level beings, hal as universal level, the anvil=johnny's nova blast and the titans>>>guardians. you guys showed us all what is what. 👆

iow--this is what happens when lowballing is exposed for the blatant idiocy it is.

i still haven't seen any GOOD reasons why oa doesn't fall, though i am still not closed to the idea completely.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Galactus has created pocket universes? Scans?

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, abhi... Keep pretending like none of this exists:

*sighs*


Yup, let's pretend its not spelled out how it works.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not sure what's unclear here?

"The power of the sun channeled through a fixed point buttressed by the earth herself".

The "four nodes" were fixed points through which the power was channeled. Not power source. Even the scan where the energy is drawn from sun, the blue energy signature of the four nodes just encircled earth and the yellow energy signature of the sun blasts celestials.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/40247786/Fantastic_Four_603-011.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/40247787/Fantastic_Four_603-012.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/40247788/Fantastic_Four_603-013.jpg.html

ermm

Originally posted by leonidas
we've beaten the anvil bit to death. we know you can't accept our explanation because it does your lowballing no good. so, for a change of pace, let's follow abhi's line of logic for a second and suppose the weapon really does focus just the power of the sun, as he's repeatedly said. now i know you don't know much about science abhi, but via WORK (ie in the science sense of work) concentrated sunlight can, in theory, reach PLANK levels of temperature (you know, big bang/universal creation levels) and beyond, were infinity a real-life concept. we can't do it of course, but we're not the council of reeds, and we don't live in a comic universe where infinity DOES exist to varying degrees. anyway, it's basically the same real-life process that allows the sun's corona to reach a few million degrees. i suspect hickman maybe had some inkling of this and that maybe explains the infinity symbol in galan's scan. mmm

thinking about it now, i actually like YOUR interpretation better. fits hickman's science-based writing better. ok abhi, you've genuinely convinced me. it really was the focused power of the sun, concentrated to big bang levels of power. ie--the voltron celestial was broken by a universal level blast. mission accomplished abhi. you really are a genius. 👆

This is h1a8 level nonsense. Keep it up.

as for how powerful the celestials were--i went over this with zop, and he already beat you to the lowballing, so i'll let the 2 of you huddle together under a blanky and whisper stories of lowballing together. you can regale each other with tales of the celestials being herald level, or sue's force fields being universal level or whatever gets the 2 of you warm and fuzzy. the intent of the writer was crystal clear to anyone not wearing their idiot goggles. i mean it's not like marvel has creditted the celestials with creating the MULTIVERSE through sheer will, right? i mean, that puts them above even *GULP* universe-building hal!!1! damn, bet he wished he used his universe power when prime casually broke his arm when they met in IC.

You know who else created infinite multiverse out of a single universe? Alex Luthor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]And as Thorbags want to scale power levels, here you go.

Alex Luthor recreates infinite multiverse using the magic of prime universe.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23168988/shift.jpg.html

Reiterated multiple times that the magic of main universe is the fuel.

http://i.imgur.com/eKeBHNc.jpg

Just for emphasis, it is again confirmed that Alex indeed brought the pre crisis infinite multiverse back. From Justice Society of America 20 if anyone wants to know.

Mordru had absorbed entire magic of Legion universe.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mH3AQZmWS5k/VjOaWUFcJJI/AAAAAAARvoU/b3GvdBi6K_k/s1600/24_07.jpg

SBP flat out laughed at his attack. But Mordru was certainly holding back, eh?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11112/111125835/3216693-superman+prime+magix.jpg

So did Kinetix who had absorbed the magic of her entire universe.

http://i.imgur.com/Oi7lTkp.jpg

What happened to her?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111116033/3851617-91233782.jpg

Funniest thing? It's all written by one writer.

But I guess that would be ignored because "Prime".

or maybe he could have helped with the wall that prime smashed through and hundreds of gl's built?

wait, wait, so does that mean the reserve titans>300 gl's? must be. the titans are also>2 guardians (see below), since they actually ko'd prime. hmm. that's a puzzler. so: titans>2 guardians>4 planet galactus.

abhi/zop logic ftw!

do you honestly NOT see how stupid you sound?

As opposed to you using ONE low showing from a different writer as be all, end all for Prime? Yeah, no stupidity there.

as far as your galactus scan--typically an irrelevant strawman. wraithworld is MAGIC-based. the guardians are able to use the same type of magic as the sorcerous black sun? really? scans of the guardians using sorcery?

Right, nobody can drain Galactus normally.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KYge-i7YxDk/WYvCfKBfrLI/AAAAAAAADhE/tgJklBtcJ1su2twdriKjF8_pKTmBbx2DwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO024_w.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xDQrwBuvGIo/WYvCfmlOXZI/AAAAAAAADhI/qwYRQqMJ9foYIz6tr9jT3kpg8jXoZOe9QCHMYCw/s1600/RCO025.jpg

re: the guardian vs prime:

https://imgur.com/a/lz9v9Fc

lol TWO guardians attack him at the same time. what does he do? laughs in their faces and proceeds to choke out the guardian (though it looks like he is going to rip his head off). the guardians's solution. die so he can BFR prime! lol stupid guardians should have called the titans. 👆

Maybe Mordru, Alex Luthor, Kinetix and Monarch should've called Titans too.

so, if all the guardians surround galactus and kill themselves as an attack, i'll grant you they might be able to win via BFR. then again, his entire life force couldn't kill prime who did what again....? ABSORBED IT! on second thought, maybe that shouldn't be an option for them....

because guess what galactus does:

https://imgur.com/a/VfZGq0G

Yeah because Galactus has obviously never been defeated by energy blasts.

That's when he was amped by Gah Lak Tus and absorbed a supernova too.

thrives on energy in ALL its forms. what's worse, we see how easily galactus can use ANTI-MATTER. and, well, the guardians do NOT like antimatter...

https://imgur.com/a/ov6fzlO

she died of course.

tl:dr lol

When Galactus can destroy a planet with his anti matter blasts (which he failed), he may be able to harm Kilowog (who survived his entire planet getting wiped out by COIE wave).

to sum up, thanks to you and zop, we have celestials as herald level beings, hal as universal level, the anvil=johnny's nova blast and the titans>>>guardians. you guys showed us all what is what. 👆

iow--this is what happens when lowballing is exposed for the blatant idiocy it is.

Yeah, you suck at it.

i still haven't seen any GOOD reasons why oa doesn't fall, though i am still not closed to the idea completely. [/B]

Because Galactus gets his ass kicked.

>Galactus fed on 4 planets.
>showing low feats of hungry Galactus

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
>Galactus fed on 4 planets.
>showing low feats of hungry Galactus

This Galactus fed on a supernova.

https://postimg.cc/LgFgB1pP
https://postimg.cc/T5jLk3d4
https://postimg.cc/5j8C9nBS
https://postimg.cc/ZCZyWpjt

Yet got oneshotted by ultimate captain marvel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This Galactus fed on a supernova.

https://postimg.cc/LgFgB1pP
https://postimg.cc/T5jLk3d4
https://postimg.cc/5j8C9nBS
https://postimg.cc/ZCZyWpjt

Yet got oneshotted by ultimate captain marvel.

right, because let's ignore his other high showings Galan has and lowball him to the ends of infinity

Originally posted by abhilegend
This Galactus fed on a supernova.

https://postimg.cc/LgFgB1pP
https://postimg.cc/T5jLk3d4
https://postimg.cc/5j8C9nBS
https://postimg.cc/ZCZyWpjt

Yet got oneshotted by ultimate captain marvel.

you can show him all the evidences in the world, he will always find an excuse

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
right, because let's ignore his other high showings Galan has and lowball him to the ends of infinity

What high showings when he fed on four planets?

Wow... Other than it is factually incorrect to claim Sol's anvil is only powered up by the sun, it is also a weak weapon due to that claim?? Forget about the tech being used to "crush a beyonder" and tear apart the voltron celestial.

Superman's cells are powered by sunlight, therefore he is not that powerful. Feats be damned!

Abhilogic 101.