Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, this is very large circlejerk. "How powerful are Mad Celestials? They beat Galactus!!!!, how powerful was this Galactus? He beat a mad celestial!!!! Ok, how powerful was this mad celestial? Umm, it was destroyed by Sol's anvil!!!! Ok, how powerful was this sol's anvil? It was beyond 9000!!!!Except it is just the energy of the sun.
When you write the next Galactus story, you should've added that.
Yeah, nobody can drain Galactus. Isn't that right?
If only you could write this imaginary version of Galactus!!!
we've beaten the anvil bit to death. we know you can't accept our explanation because it does your lowballing no good. so, for a change of pace, let's follow abhi's line of logic for a second and suppose the weapon really does focus just the power of the sun, as he's repeatedly said. now i know you don't know much about science abhi, but via WORK (ie in the science sense of work) concentrated sunlight can, in theory, reach PLANK levels of temperature (you know, big bang/universal creation levels) and beyond, were infinity a real-life concept. we can't do it of course, but we're not the council of reeds, and we don't live in a comic universe where infinity DOES exist to varying degrees. anyway, it's basically the same real-life process that allows the sun's corona to reach a few million degrees. i suspect hickman maybe had some inkling of this and that maybe explains the infinity symbol in galan's scan. mmm
thinking about it now, i actually like YOUR interpretation better. fits hickman's science-based writing better. ok abhi, you've genuinely convinced me. it really was the focused power of the sun, concentrated to big bang levels of power. ie--the voltron celestial was broken by a universal level blast. mission accomplished abhi. you really are a genius. 👆
as for how powerful the celestials were--i went over this with zop, and he already beat you to the lowballing, so i'll let the 2 of you huddle together under a blanky and whisper stories of lowballing together. you can regale each other with tales of the celestials being herald level, or sue's force fields being universal level or whatever gets the 2 of you warm and fuzzy. the intent of the writer was crystal clear to anyone not wearing their idiot goggles. i mean it's not like marvel has creditted the celestials with creating the MULTIVERSE through sheer will, right? i mean, that puts them above even *GULP* universe-building hal!!1! damn, bet he wished he used his universe power when prime casually broke his arm when they met in IC.
or maybe he could have helped with the wall that prime smashed through and hundreds of gl's built?
wait, wait, so does that mean the reserve titans>300 gl's? must be. the titans are also>2 guardians (see below), since they actually ko'd prime. hmm. that's a puzzler. so: titans>2 guardians>4 planet galactus.
abhi/zop logic ftw!
do you honestly NOT see how stupid you sound?
as far as your galactus scan--typically an irrelevant strawman. wraithworld is MAGIC-based. the guardians are able to use the same type of magic as the sorcerous black sun? really? scans of the guardians using sorcery?
re: the guardian vs prime:
https://imgur.com/a/lz9v9Fc
lol TWO guardians attack him at the same time. what does he do? laughs in their faces and proceeds to choke out the guardian (though it looks like he is going to rip his head off). the guardians's solution. die so he can BFR prime! lol stupid guardians should have called the titans. 👆
so, if all the guardians surround galactus and kill themselves as an attack, i'll grant you they might be able to win via BFR. then again, his entire life force couldn't kill prime who did what again....? ABSORBED IT! on second thought, maybe that shouldn't be an option for them....
because guess what galactus does:
https://imgur.com/a/VfZGq0G
thrives on energy in ALL its forms. what's worse, we see how easily galactus can use ANTI-MATTER. and, well, the guardians do NOT like antimatter...
https://imgur.com/a/ov6fzlO
she died of course.
tl:dr lol
to sum up, thanks to you and zop, we have celestials as herald level beings, hal as universal level, the anvil=johnny's nova blast and the titans>>>guardians. you guys showed us all what is what. 👆
iow--this is what happens when lowballing is exposed for the blatant idiocy it is.
i still haven't seen any GOOD reasons why oa doesn't fall, though i am still not closed to the idea completely.