The AOC Green Plan or otherwise known as the

Started by Surtur6 pages

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
China generates more electricity from renewables than any other country on the planet and more than twice as much as the no 2 country (the US) and it's % of power from renewables increases every year.

It's the top country in the Clean Development Mechanism from the Kyoto Protocol.

It's one of the only countries in the world increasing its nuclear energy capacity.

There are 3 countries that didn't sign up for Kyoto. One of them was the US.

There are only 2 countries that didn't ratify the Paris agreement. Syria and Nicaragua. Only 1 is threatening to withdraw from it...the US.

Right, and yet...are they or are they not increasing their coal usage?

EDIT: Kinda sounds like they showed some environmental restraint in the past and now it's kinda changing.

Originally posted by Surtur
Right, and yet...are they or are they not increasing their coal usage?

EDIT: Kinda sounds like they showed some environmental restraint in the past and now it's kinda changing.

Their coal usage peaked in 2016, declined in 2017 and their 2018 haven't been published yet afaik.

It’s India we should really worry about.

China's Coal Use Climbs Despite Pollution Plans

This article doesn't paint the situation as going very well. And this is from a left leaning website with a "high" factual reporting rating...according to the website some here love to use to judge media outlets.

Originally posted by Surtur
China's Coal Use Climbs Despite Pollution Plans

This article doesn't paint the situation as going very well. And this is from a left leaning website with a "high" factual reporting rating...according to the website some here love to use to judge media outlets.

Increasing energy demands from their massive economic growth in recent years fuelled a lot of it. The hope now is that their growth is slowing to more sustainable levels that their policies on reducing the need for coal will kick in. They've also enacted a 3 year coal reduction plan this year. Last year they also introduced much stricter legislation on pollutants from coal use.

It's targets are to reduce its % of power generated from coal by 7% in 3 years. Increase its renewables by 50% from 10% total to 15% total by next year and 30% by 2050.

Been said back when Trump first took office, but his war against renewable energy and love of coal and oil really put the US back in being at the very front of renewable sources like solar and wind power. China's going to be the one selling cheaper and more efficient solar cells and wind turbines to the world when it could have been the US being the seller and that industry is only going to grow and grow as it works along with existing sources and eventually starts to replace them more and more as the technology progresses.

Still not too late, but playing catch-up to China isn't good. They're usually the ones knocking off others' tech advancements; know they're spearheading.

Originally posted by Surtur
The thing about climate change is that most people *do* acknowledge it, the question is over just exactly how much of an impact we're having and what to do about it.

And I don't think it's wrong to wonder how correct the science has been when it comes to these predictions, etc.

Shit like "Climate-gate" didn't help.

The Trump admin doesn't. Their policy is "it's a hoax by China" and "we don't have to worry about the planet, a higher power is taking care of it (aka God).

Recent long term study found that insect populations are dying in larger and larger numbers, mostly due to pollutants (from agriculture) and weather changes. Insects die, that impacts that rest of the food chain on up on a god-level scale. Humans are in that same food chain. No, it's not happening tomorrow, but that doesn't mean we just go "let our grand kids deal with it".

We should IMPLEMENT the GREEN DEAL NOW!

It is the Only way to save The WORLD!!

"Where is this idea that conservatives are obsessed with AOC coming from? Sounds like a false-flag to me." - DMB

Originally posted by Tzeentch
"Where is this idea that conservatives are obsessed with AOC coming from? Sounds like a false-flag to me." - DMB

Ah yes, discussing the new deal her and other democrats are trying to push is being called obsession. Interesting.

Democrats Panic After McConnell Urges 'Green New Deal' Vote. They Get Mocked.

😆

Originally posted by Tzeentch
"Where is this idea that conservatives are obsessed with AOC coming from? Sounds like a false-flag to me." - DMB

When almost every little thing AOC does shows up almost everywhere on the internet, in my face, all the time, from not-even primarily political places, you have to wonder if your rhetoric is either terribly ignorant or if you're just trolling.

Go visit r/all on reddit, any politics on Instagram, any trending on Twitter, etc. Let me know how many anti-Trump, anti-GOP, pro-Democrat, or pro-AOC posts you see that get voted to the top 20 pages or "currently trending."

What I called a false flag was the dance video "controversy"

Originally posted by dadudemon
Go visit r/all on reddit, any politics on Instagram, any trending on Twitter, etc.
I don't go on pleb sites, sorry. Interesting to know that you get your politics from instagram though. 👆

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I don't go on pleb sites, sorry.

You're on KMC.

KMC is high-culture. Afterall, you post here.

I have seen more Culture in a Petri Dish....

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I don't go on pleb sites, sorry. Interesting to know that you get your politics from instagram though. 👆

I don't. I don't even use Instagram.

But I don't live under a rock, either. I'm a cultured and knowledgeable man.

Return to me with another comeback. Something more directly relevant. It might be difficult, though, because i mentioned multiple top 20 most trafficked web-domains so it's kind of hard to backpedal, now, innit? awesome

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't. I don't even use Instagram.
Lol, sure.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Lol, sure.

No Facebook.

No Twitter.

No Instagram.

Not even Myspace.

🙂

Peanut Butter and Jelly?

Edit - Do have multiple Slack accounts and multiple Discord accounts/usernames. That's better, IMO.