Count Dooku vs. Darth Vader

Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
Dooku only ragdolled him when he was caught of guard. And in the ROTS Kenobi was actually tiring him out. Stop lowballing Vader, unless you are trolling?

The fact that Kenobi while literally stonewalling Dooku and staring him right in the face was caught off guard by Dooku's Force Push is one of the most laughable claims I've heard and if true proves how incompetent Kenobi is and doesn't debunk anything.

We've got 2 conclusions we can draw from this:

A) Kenobi had a defence up and wasn't retarded but is still vastly weaker than The Count.

B) Dooku hit Kenobi with a Force Push before he could react while the latter was staring him directly in the face proving how incompetent Kenobi is.

Either works my case as they both show Dooku is much better than Kenobi with only the latter proving Kenobi's ridiculously incompetent.

As for Dooku being tired out by Kenobi just read what bdsmbdsm said. That deals with it perfectly.

Originally posted by HP Legend
The fact that Kenobi while literally stonewalling Dooku and staring him right in the face was caught off guard by Dooku's Force Push is one of the most laughable claims I've heard and if true proves how incompetent Kenobi is and doesn't debunk anything.

We've got 2 conclusions we can draw from this:

A) Kenobi had a defence up and wasn't retarded but is still vastly weaker than The Count.

B) Dooku hit Kenobi with a Force Push before he could react while the latter was staring him directly in the face proving how incompetent Kenobi is.

Either works my case as they both show Dooku is much better than Kenobi with only the latter proving Kenobi's ridiculously incompetent.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Kenobi was looking directly at Greivous and the Force Pushed him into a wall and obviously, Greivous didn't expect that.

Lmao. Grievous didn't expect it but had more than enough time to react once Kenobi made it obvious what he was about to do but he couldn't actually do anything about it. Kenobi on the other hand has the Force and can actually put up a barrier against Dooku's attacks but either fails to or gets rekt regardless.

The former conclusion indicates Dooku is far faster given Kenobi can't react while staring directly at him and the latter proves any defence Kenobi puts up is insignificant.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Lmao. Grievous didn't expect it but had more than enough time to react once Kenobi made it obvious what he was about to do but he couldn't actually do anything about it. Kenobi on the other hand has the Force and can actually put up a barrier against Dooku's attacks but either fails to or gets rekt regardless.

The former conclusion indicates Dooku is far faster given Kenobi can't react while staring directly at him and the latter proves any defence Kenobi puts up is insignificant.

And Kenobi didn't attempt of pulling up any shield at all, he just stood there and was forced under a staircase.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Lmao. Grievous didn't expect it but had more than enough time to react once Kenobi made it obvious what he was about to do but he couldn't actually do anything about it. Kenobi on the other hand has the Force and can actually put up a barrier against Dooku's attacks but either fails to or gets rekt regardless.

The former conclusion indicates Dooku is far faster given Kenobi can't react while staring directly at him and the latter proves any defence Kenobi puts up is insignificant.

Originally posted by CuckedCurry
Nah lol

Originally posted by LaserBoi
Your saying that Obi-wan is weaker and insignificant to Dooku, but what doesn't make sense is anakin beat dooku, proving that he is stronger than Dooku, but Obi-wan beat anakin on Mustafar (in which they were both the same skill level from the battle aboard Greivous's dreadnought)

Yeah Obi Wan beat a hindered Anakin on Mustafar. Let's not pretend like Anakin doesn't stomp Kenobi on neutral ground.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
When in the hell did Kenobi give any sign of Force Pushing him? 😬

And Kenobi didn't attempt of pulling up any shield at all, he just stood there and was forced under a staircase.

1. When he took like 3 seconds to draw his hand back lol.

2. Well we didn't actually see it happen on screen n the movie given it cuts to Palpatine's face and the novels descirption is vague as all it says is Kenobi was sent flying. There is no indication of whether or not Kenobi put up a defence but given he was staring Dooku in the face and was literally stonewalling him in sabers beforehand I think it's pretty unrealistic to assume he didn't put up a defence. Also even if he didn't that just proves Kenobi is a retard who can't even put up a defcen when he's staring someone directly in the face making it plausible that Dooku can beat him anyway.

Take your pick:

-Kenobi is inferior to Dooku.

-Kenobi is retarded.

How about both?

Originally posted by bdsmbdsm
How about both?

👆

Sounds good.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Yeah Obi Wan beat a hindered Anakin on Mustafar. Let's not pretend like Anakin doesn't stomp Kenobi on neutral ground.

Originally posted by HP Legend
1. When he took like 3 seconds to draw his hand back lol.

2. Well we didn't actually see it happen on screen n the movie given it cuts to Palpatine's face and the novels descirption is vague as all it says is Kenobi was sent flying. There is no indication of whether or not Kenobi put up a defence but given he was staring Dooku in the face and was literally stonewalling him in sabers beforehand I think it's pretty unrealistic to assume he didn't put up a defence. Also even if he didn't that just proves Kenobi is a retard who can't even put up a defcen when he's staring someone directly in the face making it plausible that Dooku can beat him anyway.

Take your pick:

-Kenobi is inferior to Dooku.

-Kenobi is retarded.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I would say about 1.7 seconds at most really. :3

More than enough given Grievous can strike 20 times in a second.

Originally posted by HP Legend
More than enough given Grievous can strike 20 times in a second.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
And has four arms. :3

5 times in a second then with 1 arm. Still good enough.

Originally posted by HP Legend
5 times in a second then with 1 arm. Still good enough.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
And full rotation wrist. :3

Jesus Christ you're persistent. Not having a full rotation wrist isn't gonna bring his 5 strikes a second down to 1 strike a second lol.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Jesus Christ you're persistent. A full rotation wrist isn't gonna bring his 5 strikes a second down to 1 strike a second lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmxmbiFkGl0

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
You sure? :3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmxmbiFkGl0

This proves what exactly?