Marvel's Zeus vs All Star Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk before fighting Zeus survived the sun being thrown on him. Tanked 133 Hercules of power pounding on his insides. 1 Hercules under the same writer held New York in place. Mulitple that time 133.

Yet Zeus hit him with less than a million tons of force, yet Thing hit Hulk with less than 200 tons of force and busted Hulk's face.

You know that characters don't operate at the same level in every showing. A character operating at 1000 tons in one scene can be operating at 100 tons max in another. That's how comics work.

A writer can have someone that can lift a billion tons max crush Hulk like Zeus did.

The circles in this scan is his knees. The arrows is the start of the dirt (ground). The arrow between the crouch area is the spreading of those sexy Hulk legs. If he is on his knees, how in the WORLD can we see his knees. Why is there open space between his legs as if he is standing up? Why is his knees above the ground? Wtf... man.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/40289026/Screenshot_20190217-020140_Chrome.jpg.html

Bottomline: Hulk has been damaged by forces far lower than 1000 tons. Therefore you can't pick and choose how much force it took for Zeus to damage Hulk.

Zeus strained lifting a billion tons while amped. That’s his maximum and highest feat. Therefore it took LESS than a billion tons to bust Hulk up like that.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yet Zeus hit him with less than a million tons of force, yet Thing hit Hulk with less than 200 tons of force and busted Hulk's face.

You know that characters don't operate at the same level in every showing. A character operating at 1000 tons in one scene can be operating at 100 tons max in another. That's how comics work.

A writer can have someone that can lift a billion tons max crush Hulk like Zeus did.

How many tons was Doomsday operating at when him and Superman fought? What about Darkseid? When Doomsday beat him, how many tons was Darkseid operating at. How about this, when you answer it, if its over 100 tons, please prove it.

@H1...

Gotcha. Remember, you tend to bring up Doomsday piercing Superman with his claws that shot through him like butter (per your words) but pages before this, Superman was koed by a gas station. Does this mean Doomsday attack won't do anything to an elite at their best?

Originally posted by carver9
You're the one that is saying Proxima lifted him up. Nothing even indicates that happened.

midnight pulled out the spear that has the weight of the star, hulk does not have weight of the star no more on his back, midnight turns hulk back to human. this literally one scan and we been arguin for 2 pages

Originally posted by carver9
The circles in this scan is his knees. The arrows is the start of the dirt (ground). The arrow between the crouch area is the spreading of those sexy Hulk legs. If he is on his knees, how in the WORLD can we see his knees. Why is there open space between his legs as if he is standing up? Why is his knees above the ground? Wtf... man.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/40289026/Screenshot_20190217-020140_Chrome.jpg.html

you only see part of his knees, the other part was covered by muddy dirt wind blowing.
there aren't open space between his legs and ground because we don't know where exactly the ground is in the location below hulk. the artist was retarded didn't draw it out very well, which in turn give you an excuse to argue something so ridiculous.

Originally posted by carver9
@H1...

Gotcha. Remember, you tend to bring up Doomsday piercing Superman with his claws that shot through him like butter (per your words) but pages before this, Superman was koed by a gas station. Does this mean Doomsday attack won't do anything to an elite at their best?

I'm not going to take Superman's highest durability feats and equate someone's strength to because they damaged Superman. That's what you are doing here.

If you want to equate someone's strength based off who they damaged then you must go on the average durability of the character (not highest or lowest).
Hulk, on average, can be damaged by forces far less than a million tons. Therefore Zeus applied less than a million tons when he busted Hulk.

Originally posted by MrMind
midnight pulled out the spear that has the weight of the star, hulk does not have weight of the star no more on his back, midnight turns hulk back to human. this literally one scan and we been arguin for 2 pages

you only see part of his knees, the other part was covered by muddy dirt wind blowing.
there aren't open space between his legs and ground because we don't know where exactly the ground is in the location below hulk. the artist was retarded didn't draw it out very well, which in turn give you an excuse to argue something so ridiculous.

So you're saying she grabbed the spear while he was in this position....

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111164621/5656312-star+2.jpg

And he bounced up as soon as she snatched the spear out of him? Nothing even come close to this being the case. Also, hulk knees isn't match up with the ground, its match up with the dirt bouncing off the ground from the shockwaves from her attack. We see Hulk knees above the dirt bouncing off the geound.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not going to take Superman's highest durability feats and equate someone's strength to because they damaged Superman. That's what you are doing here.

If you want to equate someone's strength based off who they damaged then you must go on the average durability of the character (not highest or lowest).
Hulk, on average, can be damaged by forces far less than a million tons. Therefore Zeus applied less than a million tons when he busted Hulk.

So how many tons did Doomsday generate stabbing through Superman like butter?

Originally posted by carver9
And Hulk can physically overpower Abstracts and lift up the weight of a sun at his weakest. I'm trying to understand what you are trying to get at here with 200 quadrillion tons. Pak Hulk while drained of power had enough power to destroy a planet twice the size of earth. 200 quadrillion tons ain't crap to Heralds.

He's doing it one-handed without much effort, the combined strength of both arms and he could do triple or quadruple this tonnage.

Is that why hes straining in the last panel?

Where is he "straining" in that scan?

Originally posted by carver9
Is that why hes straining in the last panel?

He's not straining, he's talking normally with one arm behind his back. Even if he was, he lifted 200 quadrillion tons one-handed.

Originally posted by carver9
Is that why hes straining in the last panel?

when gym rats lift weights they make sound, doesn't mean they are maxing out everytime

Carver is making things up.

Originally posted by Galan007
Where is he "straining" in that scan?

Last panel "Nn". This tells me that him lifting this isn't done as easily as Broly mentioned it.

The dialogue "nn!" doesn't imply that Supes was "straining", lol.

He was effortlessly holding 200 quintillion tons in half-press position, then grunted a bit when he fully pressed it. IOW, in that final panel he is actually exerting more than 200 quintillion tons of force, as he overpowered/broke the machine itself.

...with one arm...easily.

Originally posted by carver9
Last panel "Nn". This tells me that him lifting this isn't done as easily as Broly mentioned it.

You can't be serious. You have never made the noise "nn" before speaking????? Its a pre dialog thought that comes out as a noise before speaking, its part of off the cuff conversation.

He already knew bad news was coming. Read the scans dude.

Waiting for Carver to concede

I'm sticking by what I said. Those words doesnt indicate ease.