2020 Presidential Election Discussion

Started by dadudemon523 pages
Originally posted by BackFire
Do you know if any of the polling firms changed their methods at all after 2016?

Not off the top of my head.

But Rasmussen, who correctly predicted the results towards the end, said they are using the same methods as before.

Just some context

https://ibb.co/8cjqB4q

Originally posted by dadudemon
Not off the top of my head.

But Rasmussen, who correctly predicted the results towards the end, said they are using the same methods as before.

I don’t either. I would imagine after having their polls so wrong in 2016 a lot of them would try to make adjustments to improve in some way.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Just some context

https://ibb.co/8cjqB4q

This is now getting embarrassing.

Originally posted by BackFire
I don’t either. I would imagine after having their polls so wrong in 2016 a lot of them would try to make adjustments to improve in some way.

I read a news article and posted it to KMC that talked about how none of the major pollsters adjusted their methods despite claiming to do so and they are still getting it wrong (that's where I'm getting that idea from):

Harry Enten of CNN trumpeted, "2018 was a very good year for polls." Really? Many of the contests were in deep red or blue areas where the outcome was never in doubt. And there were still some big misses. Polls again underestimated Republicans in a handful of states including Florida and, as in 2016, those misses were enough to result in narrow wins in important races. In all, only 80 percent of polls showed the eventual winners leading. That sounds good, but take out the no-brainers, and the hit rate is more like 50–50—in other words, a coin flip.

So far in 2020, poll performance is mixed. Polls missed in South Carolina. They said Biden was ahead by an average of 15 percentage points and he won by 28 percentage points, although perhaps that's understandable given the rapid consolidation as other candidates dropped out and the huge endorsement from Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the third-ranking Democrat in the House. Polls also missed the rise of moderates and fall of progressives, first evident in New Hampshire. Polls were close in Florida, but underestimated Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary in Michigan, as they did in 2016.

Those who make forecasts have also missed. Less than a month ago FiveThirtyEight, which focuses on statistical analysis of politics and other key issues, said that Sanders was in "the driver's seat" and "easily most likely to win the Democratic nomination." So much for that.

https://www.newsweek.com/pollsters-got-it-wrong-when-trump-took-hillary-2016-can-you-trust-them-this-time-1497088

Interesting read. Thanks. One of the things I’m most interested in this year is to see how the polls actually are. If they’re wrong yet again and trump wins then I think they’d have to make pretty significant changes or else people will probably write them off completely.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your back bothering you today, buddy?
He's probably sweating.

Originally posted by BackFire
Interesting read. Thanks. One of the things I’m most interested in this year is to see how the polls actually are. If they’re wrong yet again and trump wins then I think they’d have to make pretty significant changes or else people will probably write them off completely.

Many of us already have.

Yeah after 2016; I no longer believe the polls.

Too much bias.

Originally posted by wxyz
Yeah after 2016; I no longer believe the polls.

Too much bias.

I was pretty confident the pollsters learnt their lesson but maybe not..... time will tell.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I read a news article and posted it to KMC that talked about how none of the major pollsters adjusted their methods despite claiming to do so and they are still getting it wrong (that's where I'm getting that idea from):

https://www.newsweek.com/pollsters-got-it-wrong-when-trump-took-hillary-2016-can-you-trust-them-this-time-1497088

Lol. Cuz why would they ever learn a lesson?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol. Cuz why would they ever learn a lesson?
as if you ever learnt a lesson

NASA says there is a big asteroid heading our way and is supposed to arrive the day before the election. They also say there is only like a 0.41% chance that it will actually hit us.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
NASA says there is a big asteroid heading our way and is supposed to arrive the day before the election. They also say there is only like a 0.41% chance that it will actually hit us.
Then there definitely needs to be a lock down.

LOL. I assume that has to be a joke. I doubt locking down would do any good if a large asteroid slammed into us.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LOL. I assume that has to be a joke. I doubt locking down would do any good if a large asteroid slammed into us.
Lock downs and generic masks protect us from viruses. Protecting us from an asteroid is definitely possible. 👆

Originally posted by Badabing
Lock downs and generic masks protect us from viruses. Protecting us from an asteroid is definitely possible. 👆

😆 😆

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
NASA says there is a big asteroid heading our way and is supposed to arrive the day before the election. They also say there is only like a 0.41% chance that it will actually hit us.

It's like 6ft across.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It's like 6ft across.

You actually confirmed that?