2020 Presidential Election Discussion

Started by dadudemon523 pages

Originally posted by Surtur

Okay, so first let me say even the greatest mathematicians to ever live could not properly calculate how little f*cks I give about this, but imagine if a republican had retweeted this only it was a picture of Muhammad...

It's a picture of "white Jesus." I can understand why he's mad about that.

It's kind of retarded to believe in white Jesus.

The big question is...is it a non-magic Jesus or is that a magic Jesus.

Cuz if he is magic he could make himself be white.

Jesus was just a good magician ahead of his time.

Originally posted by BackFire
Jesus was just a good magician ahead of his time.

Give me the power to turn water into wine and I shall make you forget the problems of the world!

Originally posted by BackFire
Jesus was just a good magician ahead of his time.

Yeah, but then again that "good" magician cursed several cities into ruin cuz they wouldn't listen when he told them to stop sinning.

David Blaine wishes he could do that.

"The media isn't biased against Trump!"

Hate it.

No thanks.

You're NOT welcome then!

Oh and speaking of media bias: Joe Biden needs to fire his aides because he actually went through with meeting Jacob Blake's family, including his anti-semitic father.

So we will see how the media treats this in the coming days.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-was-never-trump-not-anymore-11599087108?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR0FJolYlDe5yPtf__5fYmiYVK9tln-yMtiNZnPDKV3-UQ9inT49nr3l09c

Very good article; I can see more people rejecting Biden and the Left and Trump winning.

Originally posted by dadudemon
"The media isn't biased against Trump!"

Biden's wearing a mask and visited the day after, probably to fix Trump's mess.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree with them, fully.

I blame the people for continuing to elect the same corrupt incumbents, year after year. You don't blame the electorate for voting for corrupt politicians? That's how the system works. lol

And, obviously, people who are socialists are generous with money that is not their own: they have YouTube montages of just this action. An idiot will gush about free college, unlimited immigration, etc. Then when asked to put up their home for housing immigrants or money for free tuition, they say no.

Yeah, I do understand that point of view, I guess I just see it differently for the reasons I stated. I believe that people are in many ways shaped by their circumstances and that the circumstances are actively controlled by powerful interests, so I don't give even the majority of blame to people. I'm not a fan of Trump by any means, but I don't think that it is the fault of the people who voted him in that he won, the dynamics of that are much more complex.

And of course there's certainly hypocrites among leftists, although I would say that most socialists don't say that individuals should step up to fix problems (through charity for example), but that communities should come together to solve problems, so the question of whether you would house an immigrant yourself is not really a refutation of the demand that the government provide housing for immigrants. Of course you can still say they are really selfish and trying to take the easy way out by "outsourcing" the problem, and that's certainly a fair criticism, imo.

Let them eat cake

Originally posted by Silent Master
Let them eat cake

I'm not sure how you mean that, but if I were to interpret it I'd say this is a very accurate satire of the party functionaries and establishment politicians of both the Democratic and Republican party, which are much more concerned with their own power and symbolic fights rather than ensuring that the large number of poverty stricken, in many instances starving, and certainly threatened with things like eviction, citizens get any support.

Originally posted by Artol
Yeah, I do understand that point of view, I guess I just see it differently for the reasons I stated. I believe that people are in many ways shaped by their circumstances and that the circumstances are actively controlled by powerful interests, so I don't give even the majority of blame to people. I'm not a fan of Trump by any means, but I don't think that it is the fault of the people who voted him in that he won, the dynamics of that are much more complex.

There are massive problems with what you just said.

You take away people's agency and view them as helpless imbeciles who are incapable of making informed decisions. That's not true and it is insulting as f*ck to think that way. People are more than capable of researching candidates. We have more tools than ever to look up voting records and track records for incumbent candidates. Ignorance is no longer an excuse. And with literacy rates being in excess of 96% in the US, there's almost no excuse at all to continue to vote in corrupt candidates such as Biden.

You also view Trump's election as fundamentally wrong in the way you worded it. You view the people who voted for Trump as being at fault. That's wrong in and of itself. Trump was not part of the "government establishment." He is not part of the multi-generational government corruption. Bringing up his name is inappropriate in this context unless you are suffering from TDS. So why bring up Trump when we are talking about the Bidens, Pelosis, Kennedy's, and Bush's of the world?

Originally posted by Artol
And of course there's certainly hypocrites among leftists, although I would say that most socialists don't say that individuals should step up to fix problems (through charity for example), but that communities should come together to solve problems, so the question of whether you would house an immigrant yourself is not really a refutation of the demand that the government provide housing for immigrants. Of course you can still say they are really selfish and trying to take the easy way out by "outsourcing" the problem, and that's certainly a fair criticism, imo.

Your interpretation is incorrect of what socialism is, and in this context, is incorrect.

"a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

Literally, that means collectivism in the community. If you advocate for housing illegal immigrants, that means you should be first in line to house the illegal immigrants. If you advocate for free tuition at the cost of the community, you should be first in line to willingly give money to a college fund that makes tuition free. Or support tax hikes (covered in those same videos I mentioned: once they realize they'd get a tax hike for their socialist policy, they all of a sudden don't support it directly).

They don't. Because they are hypocrites. They are happy to give away others' money but not their own. They are happy to give away others' homes but not their own. It's the bane of socialist hypocrites.

https://youtu.be/72mIN3M5n5w

This is exactly how the Democrats will steal the election.

Biden’s centrism is a mirage

https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-shifting-center-964ae437-dab3-43b4-b97c-74a4937d9cf5.html

If only that were true. I wish Biden was the left wing Bernie type radical that people are trying to paint him as.