Pence comes across very well. His calm demeanor is very persuasive. I think I Harris comes across less well. She had a bit if a shaky voice like she’s nervous.
I think it’s pretty obvious Harris was told to be the attack dog and kind of sacrificed her performance otherwise. A common tactic in VP debates.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Jeff Goldblum needs to be on SNL this week as the fly on Pence's forehead.
I didn't really notice that. But then, I was not always right in front of my tv; was often up doing other things while I just listened.
Was the fly problem nearly as bad as the one with Hillary Clinton in one of her debates (#2, I believe) with Trump in 2016?
I remember a lot of us Trump supporters were joking back then that the fly was hanging around her because they are drawn to shit lol and that is all that was coming out of her mouth. 😆
Originally posted by BackFireI was pretty impressed by Pence yeah, even though his platform sucks.
Pence comes across very well. His calm demeanor is very persuasive. I think I Harris comes across less well. She had a bit if a shaky voice like she’s nervous.I think it’s pretty obvious Harris was told to be the attack dog and kind of sacrificed her performance otherwise. A common tactic in VP debates.
Both came across a lot better than their bosses though.
Pence is one smary futher mucker. Got dang....
And Harris with her fake anger smiles while being incredibly condescending, was creepy.
But those statements are is all about "feel."
When she gave her speech about overhauling the CJS to be rehabilitative, decriminalize MJ, etc., I said 'Yeeeesssss!' Want to help minorities and the poor? This is what you do. Stop punishing being poor. Instead, figure out how to better help the poor to reduce those poor-people-crimes.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Pence is one smary* futher mucker. Got dang....And Harris with her fake anger smiles while being incredibly condescending, was creepy.
But those statements are is all about "feel."**
When she gave her speech about overhauling the CJS to be rehabilitative, decriminalize MJ, etc., I said 'Yeeeesssss!' Want to help minorities and the poor? This is what you do. Stop punishing being poor. Instead, figure out how to better help the poor to reduce those poor-people-crimes.
smarmy*
But those statements are only about "feel."**
I wish I could edit my posts.
Originally posted by Blakemore
I've never been a fan of Harris, she's hot, but that's about it. Very bad charisma, imo. Obama had amazing charisma, and so does Pence. I still wish Biden be president, but I hope Harris acts better.
Obama was hit or miss. Mostly miss. He was frustrating to listen to because of his odd start-stop talking pattern. He said he did that because he was thinking super hard what to say to make sure it was said just the way he wanted to say it. Instead, it came off as infuriating as though he never really knew what he was wanting to talk about.
Obama was most miss on the Charisma department. Obama gets undue credit for "charisma" because Trump is an uncouth bully.
Originally posted by Blakemore
My biggest gripe was Pence constantly over-talking his time. Harris however stuttered a lot. Another gripe of mine.
She went over on her time, as well. However, she usually and weirdly just shutup as soon as the moderator told her that her time was over. Some view that as weakness. I view that as respect for the debate rules. But that's how "normal" people view this stuff: weakness. It's all about "Feels." This is why the average voter should not get to vote.
Originally posted by Blakemore
My biggest gripe was Pence constantly over-talking his time. Harris however stuttered a lot. Another gripe of mine.
That was f**king rude of him, he went over 30-60 seconds almost every time.
I didn't notice Harris stuttering a lot? Meh, don't think that's all that important either way unless you stutter so much you can't get your point across.
Originally posted by dadudemonI disagree. Whenever someone raised a Q with Obama, he'd answer it. He was great at speaking to people.
Obama was hit or miss. Mostly miss. He was frustrating to listen to because of his odd start-stop talking pattern. He said he did that because he was thinking super hard what to say to make sure it was said just the way he wanted to say it. Instead, it came off as infuriating as though he never really knew what he was wanting to talk about.Obama was most miss on the Charisma department. Obama gets undue credit for "charisma" because Trump is an uncouth bully.
She went over on her time, as well. However, she usually and weirdly just shutup as soon as the moderator told her that her time was over. Some view that as weakness. I view that as respect for the debate rules. But that's how "normal" people view this stuff: weakness. It's all about "Feels." This is why the average voter should not get to vote.
Like I said, I hope the US votws Biden.
Originally posted by Blakemore
I disagree. Whenever someone raised a Q with Obama, he'd answer it. He was great at speaking to people.
He wasn't.
Don't watch his best of highlights.
LA Times wrote about this:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-xpm-2011-may-26-la-oe-daum-obamaspeak-20110526-story.html
But consider this: It’s not that Obama can’t speak clearly. It’s that he employs the intellectual stammer. Not to be confused with a stutter, which the president decidedly does not have, the intellectual stammer signals a brain that is moving so fast that the mouth can’t keep up. The stammer is commonly found among university professors, characters in Woody Allen movies and public thinkers of the sort that might appear on C-SPAN but not CNN. If you’re a member or a fan of that subset, chances are the president’s stammer doesn’t bother you; in fact, you might even love him for it (he sounds just like your grad school roommate, especially when he drank too much Scotch and attempted to expound on the Hegelian dialectic!).If you’re not, chances are you find yourself yelling “get to the point already!” at the television screen every time Obama’s search for the right word seems to last longer than the search for Osama bin Laden. And thanks to its echoes of the college lecture hall, you may think it comes across as ever so slightly (or more than slightly) left wing.
That’s kind of ironic, given that the godfather of the intellectual stammer is arguably none other than the paterfamilias of the conservative movement, William F. Buckley Jr. With his slouch, his glazed-eyed stare and a speaking style that suggested the entire Oxford English Dictionary was flipping through his mind while he searched for a word like “dithyramb,” he makes Obama’s extemporaneous speech seem canned — not to mention pedestrian — by comparison. In fact, if the people critiquing Obama’s meandering speech patterns were to see an old “Firing Line” segment, I daresay they would think Buckley was drunk or otherwise impaired.
Granted, Buckley didn’t hold political office (he made an unsuccessful run for mayor of New York in 1965). He was more an observer than a decider, which is pretty much the opposite of what you need to be to lead a nation. Obama, as much as his critics might hate to admit it, is more than a phlegmatic egghead. He’s proved he can act decisively; whatever his faults, he’s leading the nation far more effectively — albeit less colorfully — than Buckley would have led New York. (When asked what he’d do if he won the mayoral election, he famously responded, “Demand a recount.”)
Obama’s problem is not that he’s an intellectual (for the sake of argument let’s define it as someone who is scholarly, broadly informed and distinguished as a thinker). It’s that he sounds like an intellectual. Unlike other presumed political brainiacs — Bill Clinton or Newt Gingrich, for example — he isn’t able to bury his ideas behind a folksy regional accent or good-old-boy affectations when he wants to. Nor is he effective at “keeping it real” when he falls into traditionally African American cadences that he clearly never used when he was growing up.
By speaking as though he hails from everywhere, he ends up being from nowhere. The result is that people look at him and see not a Hawaiian or a Chicagoan or even a black man, but a university man.
Of course, the president enables that stigma by stammering his way through town hall meetings and other public dialogues as though they were philosophy lectures. Irritating? Sure. But inarticulate? Sorry, folks, but you’ll have to find another adjective. And take your time. The right word is usually worth waiting for.
They retardedly call it the "intellectual stammer." FFS, the d*ck sucking.