Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if he uses TK and grabs Hulk's heart and lifts him that way?Completely hypothetical so don't jump down my throat about whether he's done it before.
My question is , is it possible.
Hulk was just functioning (while smiling) with each of his body part on all ends of a room. It did nothing. Grabbing his heart isnt going to work.
can't really quantify hulk's greatest strength feats simply through lifting. his power output needs to be explored in a few ways.
as for ds's heart question: my thought was he could survive without a heart, for a while anyway, or heal a new one if he did have to tear it out. i thought of blood too, but it seems like it might simply come down to nate's tk power vs hulk's power output. i don't know. that's why i've been unsure about this thing. and nate can't hold him indefinitely so not even sure it could count as a win...?
Originally posted by leonidas
can't really quantify hulk's greatest strength feats simply through lifting. his power output needs to be explored in a few ways.as for ds's heart question: my thought was he could survive without a heart, for a while anyway, or heal a new one if he did have to tear it out. i thought of blood too, but it seems like it might simply come down to nate's tk power vs hulk's power output. i don't know. that's why i've been unsure about this thing. and nate can't hold him indefinitely so not even sure it could count as a win...?
It was just an idea, I know BFR etc is off. Was just wondering
Originally posted by "Id"
Question for the Hulk Fans. What is the most Hulk has ever lifted, and the greatest amount of force he ever exerted?
Most difficult question to answer. The weight of the sun. His arms up when an Abstract was trying to hold him down. Punching a ship the size of continents out of orbit, iirc past the moon.
Strikes. Planet shaking. Reverse time punches. Punching Onslaught so hard he punched the reality warping abilities out of him. Punching through Nate shield. 🙂
List is long.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If that happens....Would Hulk be able to do anything? Claw his own heart out? It's not like he can flex his muscles there or anything....Or say, if he TK controlled his blood. It's not as if you can flex your blood cells, lol.
You probably just gave a future Hulk writer some ideas.
He then punched his way out of a BFR teleport device.
Originally posted by carver9never seen so many lies in one post
Most difficult question to answer. The weight of the sun. His arms up when an Abstract was trying to hold him down. Punching a ship the size of continents out of orbit, iirc past the moon.Strikes. Planet shaking. Reverse time punches. Punching Onslaught so hard he punched the reality warping abilities out of him. Punching through Nate shield. 🙂
List is long.
Originally posted by carver9
Most difficult question to answer. The weight of the sun. His arms up when an Abstract was trying to hold him down. Punching a ship the size of continents out of orbit, iirc past the moon.Strikes. Planet shaking. Reverse time punches. Punching Onslaught so hard he punched the reality warping abilities out of him. Punching through Nate shield. 🙂
List is long.
Your not a very good Hulk fan are you? There is a ton of bullshit in this post. What I am pointing could help you in your future nerdrants.
Originally posted by leonidas
can't really quantify hulk's greatest strength feats simply through lifting. his power output needs to be explored in a few ways.as for ds's heart question: my thought was he could survive without a heart, for a while anyway, or heal a new one if he did have to tear it out. i thought of blood too, but it seems like it might simply come down to nate's tk power vs hulk's power output. i don't know. that's why i've been unsure about this thing. and nate can't hold him indefinitely so not even sure it could count as a win...?
If we get a few different sources, where we can get clear points of references we can determine what Hulks walking weight class is when it comes raw physical strength. I know that value is dynamic which fluctuates. But we are aiming for high end feats so as to not gimp down Hulk for his lower showings.
Even Rage post bellow can give us a decent number, as it does require X Amount of pounds per square inch to rip that machine apart. Granted they dont know how much Hulk is exerting, we can find out how much it requires to tear the machine/structure apart.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You probably just gave a future Hulk writer some ideas.He then punched his way out of a BFR teleport device.
Nate "grabs his blood," or "grabs his heart" before Hulk gets near him. Classic Nate tactic. Apparently Nate has better control of Hulk's body than Hulk does and his power can slip into Hulk effortlessly and control everything in his body from range instantly. And this isn't a Magneto likened example when he controls specific metals inside Hulk because that's his powers, this is just Nate grabbing pieces of Hulk and holding him there - because holding Hulk in place has always worked out - which begs the question of why Nate can't just control every fiber of his being?
Also Hulk has frozen solid before, and had cases where his blood was being frozen that he overpowered. Ant Man broke his hand punching Hulk's insides, Mr Fantastic was being crushed, and the classic 133 Hercs argument. So if his heart is grabbed that's connected to every other invunerable part, it seems likely he can overpower it.
Also Grey Gargoyle shenanigans and reverting Bruce being turned into glass, and multiple molecular devices.
We seem to want to build Nate into our own Sues and Magneto due to dislike of Hulk, but the difference that's even being conceded here - though why it's being discussed as an option in the first place is weird - is that those are actual attacks, while this is being argued as a time waster. Magneto can and will use the blood to attack Hulk. Not in long concentrated efforts to control Hulk, but to hurt him. And I don't even know if Sue can put a bubble in Hulk's brain, or if that would even work. Iirc Hulk was awake while they did brain surgery on him with a chainsaw.
But yes, Nate "controls" Hulks blood/heart because he can and will specifically target that off the hop no questions asked. But why just those things when there's nothing special within Hulk that specifically allows Nate control of those things? Is it because arguing that "Nate controls every molecule of Hulk" is a lot more ridiculous sounding and there's no way you could even toss that idea out there?
Anyway, that's provided he can simply bypass Hulk's outer exterior and disrupt his insides. He's no Magneto afterall.
"But what if he did not saying he will..."
No, you're just trying to put it out there as a possible weakness for Hulk for a character who doesn't need anymore.
"I'm not saying he will teleport his brain out of his body, but what if he did, wouldn't that be wild? Lol I wonder what Hulk would even do? Crazy thought! Nate is so exotic, look at all his powers while Hulk only has one way to win. CIS off Nate totally stomps lol, if only!"
Mega gay
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Nate "grabs his blood," or "grabs his heart" before Hulk gets near him. Classic Nate tactic. Apparently Nate has better control of Hulk's body than Hulk does and his power can slip into Hulk effortlessly and control everything in his body from range instantly. And this isn't a Magneto likened example when he controls specific metals inside Hulk because that's his powers, this is just Nate grabbing pieces of Hulk and holding him there - because holding Hulk in place has always worked out - which begs the question of why Nate can't just control every fiber of his being?Also Hulk has frozen solid before, and had cases where his blood was being frozen that he overpowered. Ant Man broke his hand punching Hulk's insides, Mr Fantastic was being crushed, and the classic 133 Hercs argument. So if his heart is grabbed that's connected to every other invunerable part, it seems likely he can overpower it.
Also Grey Gargoyle shenanigans and reverting Bruce being turned into glass, and multiple molecular devices.We seem to want to build Nate into our own Sues and Magneto due to dislike of Hulk, but the difference that's even being conceded here - though why it's being discussed as an option in the first place is weird - is that those are actual attacks, while this is being argued as a time waster. Magneto can and will use the blood to attack Hulk. Not in long concentrated efforts to control Hulk, but to hurt him. And I don't even know if Sue can put a bubble in Hulk's brain, or if that would even work. Iirc Hulk was awake while they did brain surgery on him with a chainsaw.
But yes, Nate "controls" Hulks blood/heart because he can and will specifically target that off the hop no questions asked. But why just those things when there's nothing special within Hulk that specifically allows Nate control of those things? Is it because arguing that "Nate controls every molecule of Hulk" is a lot more ridiculous sounding and there's no way you could even toss that idea out there?
Anyway, that's provided he can simply bypass Hulk's outer exterior and disrupt his insides. He's no Magneto afterall.
"But what if he did not saying he will..."
No, you're just trying to put it out there as a possible weakness for Hulk for a character who doesn't need anymore.
"I'm not saying he will teleport his brain out of his body, but what if he did, wouldn't that be wild? Lol I wonder what Hulk would even do? Crazy thought! Nate is so exotic, look at all his powers while Hulk only has one way to win. CIS off Nate totally stomps lol, if only!"
Mega gay
Your Mega Gay.
As for the topic, Nate incapacitates Hulk with Telepathy.
And before we bring up this whole rant on how Hulk is immune to such attacks. Cable did exactly that, and when Hulk was being mind controlled by Onslaught.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Nate "grabs his blood," or "grabs his heart" before Hulk gets near him. Classic Nate tactic. Apparently Nate has better control of Hulk's body than Hulk does and his power can slip into Hulk effortlessly and control everything in his body from range instantly. And this isn't a Magneto likened example when he controls specific metals inside Hulk because that's his powers, this is just Nate grabbing pieces of Hulk and holding him there - because holding Hulk in place has always worked out - which begs the question of why Nate can't just control every fiber of his being?Also Hulk has frozen solid before, and had cases where his blood was being frozen that he overpowered. Ant Man broke his hand punching Hulk's insides, Mr Fantastic was being crushed, and the classic 133 Hercs argument. So if his heart is grabbed that's connected to every other invunerable part, it seems likely he can overpower it.
Also Grey Gargoyle shenanigans and reverting Bruce being turned into glass, and multiple molecular devices.We seem to want to build Nate into our own Sues and Magneto due to dislike of Hulk, but the difference that's even being conceded here - though why it's being discussed as an option in the first place is weird - is that those are actual attacks, while this is being argued as a time waster. Magneto can and will use the blood to attack Hulk. Not in long concentrated efforts to control Hulk, but to hurt him. And I don't even know if Sue can put a bubble in Hulk's brain, or if that would even work. Iirc Hulk was awake while they did brain surgery on him with a chainsaw.
But yes, Nate "controls" Hulks blood/heart because he can and will specifically target that off the hop no questions asked. But why just those things when there's nothing special within Hulk that specifically allows Nate control of those things? Is it because arguing that "Nate controls every molecule of Hulk" is a lot more ridiculous sounding and there's no way you could even toss that idea out there?
Anyway, that's provided he can simply bypass Hulk's outer exterior and disrupt his insides. He's no Magneto afterall.
"But what if he did not saying he will..."
No, you're just trying to put it out there as a possible weakness for Hulk for a character who doesn't need anymore.
"I'm not saying he will teleport his brain out of his body, but what if he did, wouldn't that be wild? Lol I wonder what Hulk would even do? Crazy thought! Nate is so exotic, look at all his powers while Hulk only has one way to win. CIS off Nate totally stomps lol, if only!"
Mega gay
No, I wanted to know if it had ever happened and if the Hulk just overpowered it.
He's punched through glass that teleports you away.
He's physically grabbed energy.
He's grown the ability to breathe water.
He's survived being chopped into chunks, ate a guy and reformed.
So yeah, somehow, I don't think me asking that question was A: stupid or B: ingenuous in any way.
Originally posted by "Id"
Your Mega Gay.As for the topic, Nate incapacitates Hulk with Telepathy.
And before we bring up this whole rant on how Hulk is immune to such attacks. Cable did exactly that, and when Hulk was being mind controlled by Onslaught.
He was being controlled and when Hulk went green, Cable couldnt do anything to stop him and I could've sworn Hulk had a shard in his brain during that time?