Should we let the ISIS bride back into the country?

Started by dadudemon3 pages

Originally posted by Putinbot1
“It is inconceivable to me that the government is unaware of its own records and letters,” Swift said. “They may not have been aware that Mr. Muthana had saved them.”

The contest over the young mother’s citizenship — and the disputed timeline on which it turns — is at the nub of the case, said Stephen I. Vladeck, a professor at the University of Texas School of Law. If the family’s lawyers win their argument that she enjoys the protections of citizenship, any defense mounted by the government would unfold on “novel territory,” he told The Post.

“I’m not familiar with a prior episode in which the government refused to allow a U.S. citizen to enter the United States,” he said. “I really don’t think the government would want to argue that it has the power to maroon citizens overseas.”

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is the most important part of the case:

She has no right to citizenship from both angles:

1. Birthright citizenship - she does not have it because her father still enjoyed diplomatic privileges until after her birth (see above).

2. US Citizenship - she lost it, even if she had it, when she committed treason by joining ISIS. She no longer gets to enjoy habeas corpus and her citizenship rights are lost.

She can apply for refugee status, possibly. But it will most likely get denied.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-03-04/justice-department-american-born-woman-who-joined-isis-not-a-us-citizen

This thread is done unless you guys want to talk more about this scenario.

Originally posted by SquallX
Jesus Christ Putin, she is a traitor that willingly joined the Islamic State to kill Americans!

Twist it how you want, or quote others, she has no right to demand shit from the US government.

It's obvious. He can keep moving the topic to point #1 and ignore #2 all day. Regardless, there's no angle for citizenship for her. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's obvious. He can keep moving the topic to point #1 and ignore #2 all day. Regardless, there's no angle for citizenship for her. 🙂

Woah now, you're not looking at every angle. What about her feelings?

Originally posted by Surtur
Woah now, you're not looking at every angle. What about her feelings?

Well, you must respect wamen and their emotions...

Originally posted by Surtur
Judge denies motion to fast-track case of American-born ISIS bride

The Trump admin doesn't want to allow her back. Should she be allowed back?

I would say if she's allowed back...surely there are crimes to charge her with. She has said the only punishment should be "therapy".

It's pretty simple:

If she's a citizen, yes.

If she isn't, no.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Is it worth not?
Is there any good pragmatic reason you think we should treat her as a citizen? She joined the enemy... It's a binary decision either you are with us or with them.

And if she changed her mind? **** that, she can't be trusted. That's like defecting to the Nazis and then changing your mind and trying to come back to the allies during WW2.

Nope.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's obvious. He can keep moving the topic to point #1 and ignore #2 all day. Regardless, there's no angle for citizenship for her. 🙂
more than one expert thinks otherwise, we'll see.

Originally posted by Robtard
Depends, if she's a US citizen, she has every right to come back into the US, as that's how it works; but she's then open to face charges for any legitimate crimes she's done in regards to US law (did she actually break any?).

If the Trump admin is correct and she's not a citizen, then she can be denied.

Originally posted by BestDebaterEver
Why do you love ISIS so much
Originally posted by Robtard
Great healthcare benefits, and the vacation time accrual is off the charts.

😂