Chimps are weaker than we thought...

Originally posted by Jmanghan
This is stupid.

Chimps have been witnessed casually lifting over 900lb.

Gorillas have been known to rip car doors off with little issues and tear car tires in half, they are WAY stronger then us and would have no trouble ripping our arms off.

One of which happened in front of my eyes, the chimp one, not the other two.

This "chimps are weaker then we thought" shit has been going on for awhile and it's stupid, stop trying to debunk stuff thats common sense and common knowledge.

I also have my doubts a gorilla tore a brand new car tire in half

The tire had 47k miles on it and it was a Pirelli

Robbie does know his rubber.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Chimp is a term I often see around the forum. But how strong is a chimp actually?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiE9eHDu-_gAhVDQBoKHcehAjwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newscientist.com%2Farticle%2F2138714-chimps-are-not-as-superhumanly-strong-as-we-thought-they-were%2F&psig=AOvVaw1EggbiILetp-skBHvS7BsR&ust=1552028682682908

Large Silverback Gorillas though have a deadlift around twice that of the heaviest lifted by a man.

Our greater slow twitch muscle per Kg of muscle muscle does give us better endurance and our fine motor skills are obviously greater.

I suspect why people so badly hurt by chimps when they attack is the chimp blitzes them with greater speed due to its superior strength to weight ratio.

- I did not know about our superior slow-twitch mass. But it makes perfect sense given the migratory behavior of our ancestors. Damn. We walked from Africa to the Americas.

- I've always thought that our biggest disadvantage in fighting off a wild animal of comparable or slightly lesser mass is not our natural strength, but our fear, our being civilized. We're not used to fighting -- unless we train for it. Then: human beings can be quite deadly. I can't imagine any humane circumstances under which, say, a 6th degree black belt would face-off against a wild chimp, but it would be interesting to see. Back in the day, I did not enjoy sparing against someone like that: it felt like he was made of freakin' stone (I did it anyway, for the experience).

- Further interesting that man/ape strength comparisons seemed to involve your "typical" gorilla or chimp (ie, an average, healthy specimen which does not exercise to get stronger -- it just lives its life); and human strength athletes, apparently powerlifters: hardly your average human. Through strength training, humans can double/triple their typical levels (more if a control-group human is particularly sedentary).

- I'm somewhat surprised nobody's trained a chimp or gorilla to powerlift. They seem more than intelligent enough IMO to understand the movement and objective, certainly deadlifting. But even with squat and bench -- which requires considerably more balance and coordination -- in addition to whatever poundage is hoisted, it'd be interesting to see how well a gorilla or chimp stabilizes heavy squats or benchpresses. Would shorter legs help in squatting (not just more muscle mass, but would there be better mechanical leverage)? Would longer arms hurt in the bench? Would both benefit deadlifting?

So many questions. So little motivation from the scientific community to find out.

This is interesting info.

When I handle cats, both domestic and strays, it's surprising how much power is generated by their paws when they kick away. Something as large as a chimp, I'd imagine would have even more power.

@Mindship:

The average human doesn't lift shit, while a chimp has to be able to swing his own body weight around and lift himself up/climb. Which essentially makes the "average" chimp at the very least more comparable to say a guy who does a ton of calisthetics. They don't train specifically for pushing themselves past their limits, but they also spend their entire lives being physical. Imagine if humans did half the climbing as chimps, I'm sure even the average human would be a massive hunk of bro in that case. It's very possible chimps are pushing their natty limits in terms of muscle growth. All they do is eat enough and work out basically.

So we don't really have anything to compare against them besides bros who try and get stronger. Though I would be curious to see how they'd progress on lifts as well. I'm just doubtful we'd see the same type of explosive growth as humans.

"Face Ripper Monkey", the chimp that severely mutilated some woman, years ago, tearing off her face, gouging out her eyes, biting off fingers, iirc, also it ripped one of her hands out at the wrist joint. Not sure even a strong human can do that?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
@Mindship:

The average human doesn't lift shit, while a chimp has to be able to swing his own body weight around and lift himself up/climb. Which essentially makes the "average" chimp at the very least more comparable to say a guy who does a ton of calisthetics. They don't train specifically for pushing themselves past their limits, but they also spend their entire lives being physical. Imagine if humans did half the climbing as chimps, I'm sure even the average human would be a massive hunk of bro in that case. It's very possible chimps are pushing their natty limits in terms of muscle growth. All they do is eat enough and work out basically.

So we don't really have anything to compare against them besides bros who try and get stronger. Though I would be curious to see how they'd progress on lifts as well. I'm just doubtful we'd see the same type of explosive growth as humans.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Face Ripper Monkey", the chimp that severely mutilated some woman, years ago, tearing off her face, gouging out her eyes, biting off fingers, iirc, also it ripped one of her hands out at the wrist joint. Not sure even a strong human can do that?

Which would be a pretty good feat of strength

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Chimp is a term I often see around the forum. But how strong is a chimp actually?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiE9eHDu-_gAhVDQBoKHcehAjwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newscientist.com%2Farticle%2F2138714-chimps-are-not-as-superhumanly-strong-as-we-thought-they-were%2F&psig=AOvVaw1EggbiILetp-skBHvS7BsR&ust=1552028682682908

Interesting huh.

Large Silverback Gorillas though have a deadlift around twice that of the heaviest lifted by a man.

Our greater slow twitch muscle per Kg of muscle muscle does give us better endurance and our fine motor skills are obviously greater.

I suspect why people so badly hurt by chimps when they attack is the chimp blitzes them with greater speed due to its superior strength to weight ratio.

Thoughts?

What is with the Chimp talk lately, its ending up on Joe Rogan even, catch me up on the fascination

Pretty sure the chimp chewed her hands off. Also I don't see why you couldn't rip a hand off if you chewed the skin/tissue around the joint. My experience extends to deers, but if you can grab the actual neck, you can pop it apart and take its head off with no sawing required. You just have to cut the skin/tissue. The monkey was already there sucking on her fingers, so if he did take a hand off, it was likely due to skin eating.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Many underestimate the power of smaller animals. Even a Raccoon can shit on your day pretty good. [/B]

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I've been saying this for years. You can literally see videos of skinny untrained guys throwing wild chimps around that are biting them.

Chimp wank has always made no sense to me. Mind you chimps would **** you up unmuzzled due to their teeth, but them being way stronger than humans always seemed like bullshit.

Gorilla wank is still the absolute worst though. Gorillas are shit.

I've got a long-running debate at work, and there are plenty of deluded fools who think a silverback gorilla would kill a polar bear more often than not.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Silverbacks have incredibly short levers compared to lowland Gorillas .

I'm assuming you mean Mountain Gorillas vs Lowland Gorillas. Mature males of all Gorilla subspecies are Silverbacks

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
I'm assuming you mean Mountain Gorillas vs Lowland Gorillas. Mature males of all Gorilla subspecies are Silverbacks

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Chimp is a term I often see around the forum. But how strong is a chimp actually?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiE9eHDu-_gAhVDQBoKHcehAjwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newscientist.com%2Farticle%2F2138714-chimps-are-not-as-superhumanly-strong-as-we-thought-they-were%2F&psig=AOvVaw1EggbiILetp-skBHvS7BsR&ust=1552028682682908

Interesting huh.

Large Silverback Gorillas though have a deadlift around twice that of the heaviest lifted by a man.

Our greater slow twitch muscle per Kg of muscle muscle does give us better endurance and our fine motor skills are obviously greater.

I suspect why people so badly hurt by chimps when they attack is the chimp blitzes them with greater speed due to its superior strength to weight ratio.

Thoughts?

What if my feelings tell me chimps aren't weaker than we thought? Would you take that into consideration?

Originally posted by Surtur
What if my feelings tell me chimps aren't weaker than we thought? Would you take that into consideration?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
ahh, your out to derail a thread again. 👆

Not at all I'm being serious. Just give me a quick "yes" or "no"

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
This is interesting info.

When I handle cats, both domestic and strays, it's surprising how much power is generated by their paws when they kick away. Something as large as a chimp, I'd imagine would have even more power.

A five month old yellow lab puppy has surprising bursts of speed. I have the bruises to prove it.

Humans can EASILY overpower and restrain alligators and other reptiles. chimps are strong as 7 world class weightlifters combined toguether. whats going to stop from them from ragdolling,gouging their eyeballs and castrating before ripping them in half like wet toilet paper? reptiles only PREY ON FAR SMALLER mammals becacse they have pitifully weak bodies and muscle strength as dogs and cats can effortlessly ragdoll and destroy FAR larger lizards and crocodiles than they. alligators can be easily killed by 22 because they have pitifully weak muscle tissue compared to mammals. you need 223 or 308 for hunting bears and bucks

fun fact: humans back in time was tied on 2 horses to be dismembered yet there was instances that failed. chimps can reliably DISMEMBER adults which makes them 4 times stronger than a horse

comparing the physical strength of komodo dragons and crocodiles against chimps and gorillas is like comparing a paraplegic 90 year old with Alzheimer against Prime Tyson 😂 . chimps can EASILY pull 1500 pounds with their pinkies gorillas can bench press 2 cars. how many nanosecs does they last before getting ripped in half like wet toilet papers after having their faces eaten and castrated?

no reptiles except large crocodiles are danger to humans as they are Pound to pound much weaker than mammals and would get ragdolled plus pulped by unarmed humans in half. medium sized dogs can easily kill humans

humans have destroyed pythons and survived crocodile with minimal injuries

travis gouged the face and eyeballs of woman

theres no interaction between crocodiles and apes because crocodiles fears and knows that if they faced they would get their face eaten, eyes gouged and castrated

unarmed humans or pitbull would easily dance in circles around komodo and croc and proceed to overpower and pulp them to death like an olympic weightlifter ripping an kid in half using our vastly stronger body muscles. let alone chimps whom are strong as 7 world class weightlifters combined toguether

travis will easily break their backs, gouge their eyes, eat their faces, castrate and rip them in half like wet toilet papers all in a spam of 5 nanosecs before a single synapse was fired inside komodo and python skulls

come back whenwhen reptiles can climb trees carrying 2x their weight like leopards whom chimps and gorillas destroys everyday for breakfast(90 year old can rip their tongues chimps does 300x better) 😂