Christchurch NZ Terror Attacks

Originally posted by dadudemon
Is this the list of Western Nations?

USA
Canada
Spain
Portugal
France
UK
Ireland
Luxembourg
Belgium
Netherlands
Germany
Switzerland
Italy
Austria
Norway
Denmark
Iceland
Sweden
Finland
Japan
S Korea
Australia
N Zealand
Greece

I've seen maps that include Russia and all of Eastern Europe as part of "Western Civilization."

Anyway, here is the world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

If the US didn't have such terrible black-on-black violence, we still only break the top 100. So it's pretty bad, here.

The black on black violence is mostly gang related and like I mentioned.. there are cities in Europe with plenty of gangs and other forms of violent crime yet severely low murder rates.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And this right here, if someone told me 5 years ago that I, as a Christian, would be defending antitheists I would've laughed in their face.

As a Christian my religion is very important to me, after my name it is my second most important identity to me, it's what I use to guide myself, to understand myself, to derive a sense of meaning in life, etc. Quite frankly, I don't like antitheist views, they are set against something of great personal significance to me, and at times I find them offensive.

At the end of the day though, I am not entitled to Surtur agreeing with my faith, I'm not entitled to him not criticizing it, I'm not entitled to government crackdown on his views, moderator crackdown on his views, or mobs of people castigating his moral character for disagreeing with me on this.

He has a fundamental ideological disagreement with religious thinking, likely spanning from the presupposition of God's existence, to devotion to God, to the embracement of religious morality. He thinks it is incorrect, and that such thinking is harmful to promulgate, in just the same way that we both are anti-leftist, we both reject the modern left-wing worldview and both clearly think that the promulgation of it has bad consequences, or in the same way that left-wingers on here disagree with the right-wing worldview and find the consequences of such thinking undesirable.

At the end of the day though, I'm certain that Surtur doesn't reject my fundamental humanity just because I'm a Christian, or that Surtur would support violence against Christians, or genocide against Christians, or legal persecution of Christians, or that in his heart he holds some deep hatred towards me because of my religious views. I certainly don't hate him for his antitheist views despite how much I disagree with them.

It's a very dangerous and disingenuous path to go down to conflate ideological disagreement with hatred or murderous or genocidal intent.

The fact that it takes a right-wing Christian to defend a left-wing antitheist, from other left wing atheists is sad.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Attach this to PatientLeech as well, he's obviously not someone with murderous or genocidal intent, I'm fairly certain he doesn't want to legally persecute religious people, and I don't think he has some deep hatred for me.

The fact that it takes a right-wing Christian to defend a left-wing antitheist, from other left wing atheists is sad.

Gotta say I don't agree with his views but as Atheists go he's pretty civil. 👆

****... how are we the ones defending him from guys like Beni?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
****... how are we the ones defending him from guys like Beni?

Because when all is said and done we respect difference of opinion. That's what you do in a civilized society.

Originally posted by Deadline
Because when all is said and done we respect difference of opinion. That's what you do in a civilized society.

This is hate speech. Your words are violence.

Did people see Chelsea Clinton get confronted at a vigil for this and blamed for the shooting? Her crime: daring to call out the anti-semitism of Ilhan Omar.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
its an equally dangerous path to not spot patterns in rhetoric which lead to a climate where violence against specific groups can prosper as the are dehumanised be it by extremists of any stripe.

Islamic extremist and White Rightist extremist seem to use very similar tactics in recruiting young idiotic men to their deadly causes.

Originally posted by Robtard
Islamic extremist and White Rightist extremist seem to use very similar tactics in recruiting young idiotic men to their deadly causes.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
yes they do Rob, I made a thread about that ages ago, but people reported it and undermined my free speech by getting the mods to close it. Sidebar, I don't blame the mods.

I remember.

Originally posted by Robtard
Islamic extremist and White Rightist extremist seem to use very similar tactics in recruiting young idiotic men to their deadly causes.

Which makes it interesting cuz folk whine that Trump doesn't label this right wing terror, but they never cared when Obama wouldn't call out Islamic terrorism and label it as such.

Your red herring has been noted, Surt. /noted

Originally posted by Robtard
Your red herring has been noted, Surt. /noted

Thanks for noting my valid point about leftist hypocrisy.

Trigger warning Tim Pool video, pathetic snowflakes beware you're in for a scare:

Regressive Left and CNN Push LIES, Use New Zealand To Demand More Censorship

YouTube video

Trump deletes Christchurch mosque massacre tweet

US President Donald Trump has now deleted his first tweet in response to the Christchurch mosque massacres, which was posted around 8.15pm last night NZT.

The tweet featured no words of condolence - or any words - just a link to a story on the tragedy posted on alt-right site Breitbart News.

The article was actually a very straightforward account, by Breitbart standards, which drew on material from the Associated Press. However, some of its comments were deeply offensive, flippant and nasty.

Even now, after many of the comments have been moderated or deleted, there are still many that are questionable, including one that calls Facebook "Flakebook" for deleting copies of the alleged killer Brenton Tarrant's livestream.

As a regular Breitbart reader, the President would have known the likely tenor of comments.

Meanwhile, one of Trump's top advisors, Kellyanne Conway, made the ridicous claim that Tarrant was an "eco-terrorist."

Ten hours later, Trump finally offered a more human response, tweeting a condemnation of the massacre and standing in support of NZ.

That's part of a pattern of the US president taking a pause before speaking out against racist violence and other racist incidents.

And when asked if he thought the Christchurch massacres reflected a rising global threat from white nationalism, he responded, "I don't, really. I think it's a small group of people with serious problems." It's hard to imagine he would have taken such a mild, mental health line if the shooter had been Muslim. -end

Good lord. But we don't have to imagine, as we know how he responds when it's a Muslim terrorist doing the murdering.

Originally posted by Robtard

Good lord. But we don't have to imagine, as we know how he responds when it's a Muslim terrorist doing the murdering.

and of course the IJW's will make 800 threads a day about it.

IJWs?

Incel justice warriors I'd imagine.

Incel Justice Warriors 🙂

FFS I was hoping it was something more creative than that.