KF Vader vs SOR Revan

1. Sabers
2.Force only
3. All out

Setting: Arena on Geonosis

Vader, unless Revan TPs.

KF Vader.

Vader. Excellent fight.

Revan.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan.

I actually agree.

Revan should be more powerful than Anakin at this point, and he defeated Malak who would be a rival swordsman to Anakin.

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
I actually agree.

Revan should be more powerful than Anakin at this point, and he defeated Malak who would be a rival swordsman to Anakin.

So you think malak is a duelist close to or at the level of windu, yoda, and palpatine?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Vader, unless Revan TPs.

Originally posted by KingofBlades
So you think malak is a duelist close to or at the level of windu, yoda, and palpatine?

Nope and neither is Anakin.

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
he defeated Malak who would be a rival swordsman to Anakin.

😂

Originally posted by Trocity
😂

Heh. I never said Malak was Anakin's superior.

But Malak did defeat the most skilled Jedi duelist in the Jedi Order of that time period, Kavar.

Defeating the #1 Jedi swordsman at the time should make him a rival to Anakin.

Originally posted by CaveDude33211

But Malak did defeat the most skilled Jedi duelist in the Jedi Order of that time period, Kavar.

Defeating the #1 Jedi swordsman at the time should make him a rival to Anakin. [/B]

Nothing states kavar was the orders best lighsaber user in during kotor 2. In fact I remember the kotor 2 prima game guide stating outright he was not as skilled as the other masters.Even if there was a statement of kavar being the order's greatest duelist that would mean he is the best among only 4 or 5 jedi which isnt impressive.

^^^

In an Order of thousands of well-trained combatants, if you are among the top 4 - 5 in terms of dueling skills, then this is not impressive.

Hmmm... excellent logic...

The Jedi of the Clone Wars were also the prime of the Jedi. So the best duelist of another era may not be even mid council level.

I’m not saying that’s true but it’s somwthing I’ve thought about.

Originally posted by KingofBlades
Nothing states kavar was the orders best lighsaber user in during kotor 2. In fact I remember the kotor 2 prima game guide stating outright he was not as skilled as the other masters.Even if there was a statement of kavar being the order's greatest duelist that would mean he is the best among only 4 or 5 jedi which isnt impressive.

Ah I was thinking of something an old friend of mine had said here:

Originally posted by zephiel7
It was stated in KOTOR that Malak defeated Kavar (the top duelist in the Jedi council) in a lightsaber duel. Kavar was the strongest duelist of a Jedi Order that fought [b]more force wielders. If the duelists receive more practice (fighting dark Jedi), then they should of course be better at wielding a lightsaber.

If you think though that the people of PT are 'more talented,' it is highly unprobable that EVERYONE in that order is more talented than EVERYONE in the KOTOR order. Since Kavar was the top dog of an (on average) stronger order of duelists, then that speaks a lot for Malak's victory.[/B]

And where did you get the idea that Kavar would only be the best out of 4 or 5 Jedi?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
^^^

In an Order of thousands of well-trained combatants, if you are among the top 4 - 5 in terms of dueling skills, then this is not impressive.

Hmmm... excellent logic...

I meant during the course of kotor 2 when the order had dwindled to a handful

Even if he was among the best prior to the mandalorian wars he would get stomped by kotor revan who is below tpm mace windu. Tpm mace is weaker than base rots anakin, let alone knightfall vader. Beating kavar isn't a feat worth noting in comparison to knightfall vader

Originally posted by KingofBlades
Even if he was among the best prior to the mandalorian wars he would get stomped by kotor revan who is below tpm mace windu. Tpm mace is weaker than base rots anakin, let alone knightfall vader. Beating kavar isn't a feat worth noting in comparison to knightfall vader

How do you know KotoR Revan is below TPM Mace Windu?

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
How do you know KotoR Revan is below TPM Mace Windu?

All of the quotes saying windu was arguably the most powerful jedi in an order that included yoda. That should place him around plagueis level which is above kotor revan considering how even revan reborn was a bit weaker than novel vitiate who is plagueis level.

Originally posted by KingofBlades
All of the quotes saying windu was arguably the most powerful jedi in an order that included yoda. That should place him around plagueis level which is above kotor revan considering how even revan reborn was a bit weaker than novel vitiate who is plagueis level.

Even though Vitiate is a shitty character, he's probably still more powerful than Plagueis.

And Mace Windu during The Phantom Menace hadn't reached his potential like he did in Revenge Of The Sith.

TPM Mace wouldn't be very close to Yoda in power.

KotoR Revan with all his accolades and training from Kreia is probably a peer to Mace Windu as he was during The Phantom Menace.