How does this battle look after the recent JL comic? Anti Monitor (along with the World Forger and Monitor) are now beings that transcend and control the DC Multiverse, including the 5th dimension and imps such as Mxy. On the other hand, Barbatos did manage to kill the World Forger and assert dominance over the Forge, so I would say these 2 are generally on the same level.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How does this battle look after the recent JL comic? Anti Monitor (along with the World Forger and Monitor) are now beings that transcend and control the DC Multiverse, including the 5th dimension and imps such as Mxy. On the other hand, Barbatos did manage to kill the World Forger and assert dominance over the Forge, so I would say these 2 are generally on the same level.
We will have to wait a bit to see how scott develops the 6th dimension. I’m curious to see if Scott will attempt to make the 6th dimension similar to the 4th world. The AM, Monitor, and Perpatua you see in DCuniverse are just avatars. It would make sense considering how the 6th dimension looked like in JL20
Going off by feats tho COIE was a monster. Barbatos defeated what’s likely a base World forger/Monitor/AntiMonitor. COIE was in a different league. He was almost a combination of all three. He absorbed infinite amount of universes.
Also, Barbatos oils have very likely betrayed and back stabbed the World Forger. Considering that Justice League will be facing the WF in the next 4-5 issues, we will start to see a more clear picture how his power level
But all things considered, the only explanation which make sense is avatars. Otherwise, the power levels are all over the place.
Also to confirm, it’s clear that AM, M, blandness WF are not in the same tier as perpatua and others like her. They are classified as super celestial because they can gain access to the 6th dimension but it’s clear the power levels are different. Perpatua also doesn’t look as strong considering the 7 unnatural forces are not hers.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZMonitor, Anti-Monitor, Perpetua and World Forger have some sort of undefined esoteric access to the 6th dimension, but at this point I'm not willing to say that they have power over the likes of Mxy just because they can enter the 6th dimension... Especially when Mxy can also whip up a portal to the 6th dimension while weakened.
How does this battle look after the recent JL comic? Anti Monitor (along with the World Forger and Monitor) are now beings that transcend and control the DC Multiverse, including the 5th dimension and imps such as Mxy.
Tbh, the 6th dimension almost seems to act as a White Hot Room of sorts for those few beings -- ie. they evidently go there to heal/respawn and such.
srug
Originally posted by Galan007
Monitor, Anti-Monitor, Perpetua and World Forger have some sort of undefined esoteric access to the 6th dimension, but at this point I'm not willing to say that they have power over the likes of Mxy just because they can enter the 6th dimension... Especially when Mxy can also whip up a portal to the 6th dimension while weakened.Tbh, the 6th dimension almost seems to act as a White Hot Room of sorts for those few beings -- ie. they evidently go there to heal/respawn and such.
srug
With that said, Scott Snyder refers to the 6th dimension as the control room. It's probably a way to control the "story telling".
Originally posted by xJLxKingIndeed, but Mxy is also weakened right now(and significantly so by the sounds of it.) So yeah.
To be fair, Mxy did attribute his ability to access the 6th dimension because the source wall was also brokenWith that said, Scott Snyder refers to the 6th dimension as the control room. It's probably a way to control the "story telling".
Oh I'm positive the 6th dimension will be some hyper-metatextual realm. That said, we have no reason to believe that those four beings have any sort of actual 'control' over that realm or w/e. So far as we know right now, all they do is basically heal/respawn in the 6th dimension if they're destroyed, and that's about it.
Originally posted by Galan007
Monitor, Anti-Monitor, Perpetua and World Forger have some sort of undefined esoteric access to the 6th dimension, but at this point I'm not willing to say that they have power over the likes of Mxy just because they can enter the 6th dimension... Especially when Mxy can also whip up a portal to the 6th dimension while weakened.Tbh, the 6th dimension almost seems to act as a White Hot Room of sorts for those few beings -- ie. they evidently go there to heal/respawn and such.
srug
I mean, it has mostly to do with what Mxy says. As mentioned, the only reason Mxy can even access the dimension is because the Source Wall is broken, and he explicitly states that the dimension is “the control room of the Multiverse” (and based on what”s happening to the 5th dimension, it has control of that too) and restricted to “all but the most powerful beings,” those beings labeled as the Three Brothers and Perpetua. He even says that the only beings who could exist there before that moment are the Brothers and Perpetua.
I see this as Mxy essentially admitting inferiority.
Originally posted by Galan007
Oh I'm positive the 6th dimension will be some hyper-metatextual realm. That said, we have no reason to believe that those four beings have any sort of actual 'control' over that realm or w/e. So far as we know right now, all they do is basically heal/respawn in the 6th dimension if they're destroyed, and that's about it.
I”m a bit confused by this. So the only four beings allowed to access the “Control Room of the Multiverse” have no control of the realm (I.e. no control over the Multiverse)?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I”m a bit confused by this. So the only four beings allowed to access the “Control Room of the Multiverse” have no control of the realm (I.e. no control over the Multiverse)?
As far as control is concerned; I think it will be more like “destiny”. Being in the 6th dimension can set the destiny of a universe or being. Very likely, it’s why superman is stuck on that planet
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZTbf, Mxy also acted like creating a portal to the 6th dimension would be some tremendously difficult feat that required most of his power... But then he casually whipped it up with a few *huffs* in a single panel while weakened. It's always hard to tell what the 'truth' is when it comes to Mxy(especially in this particular arc) -- he's playing his own game here. ermm
I mean, it has mostly to do with what Mxy says. As mentioned, the only reason Mxy can even access the dimension is because the Source Wall is broken, and he explicitly states that the dimension is "the control room of the Multiverse" (and based on what's happening to the 5th dimension, it has control of that too) and restricted to "all but the most powerful beings," those beings labeled as the Three Brothers and Perpetua. He even says that the only beings who could exist there before that moment are the Brothers and Perpetua.I see this as Mxy essentially admitting inferiority.
Regardless, the ability of those four beings to exist within the 6th dimension doesn't automatically put them above Mxy, imo. Especially when he is overwhelmingly more powerful than them in terms of showings. On top of that, Brainiac...who now has full working knowledge of Perpetua's function/purpose/power...was still scared shitless of Mxy:
https://i.imgur.com/ZJ9wQ4B.jpg
"I warned you, Luthor. His power is incalculable [...] A Fifth-Dimensional Imp has no limits."
Only time will tell what's really going on here, but as of now I am definitely not prepared to put those four over Mxy(though it's clear that Perpetua is absurdly powerful.) /shrug
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZAccording to Mxy, the 6th dimension is basically just where those four sometimes reform when they're destroyed:
I'm a bit confused by this. So the only four beings allowed to access the "Control Room of the Multiverse" have no control of the realm (i.e. no control over the Multiverse)?
https://i.imgur.com/bucBs5c.jpg
Seemingly, the 6th dimension is to those four beings, what the White Hot Room is to the Phoenix.
AM I recalling at least had 4 different origins
1COIE
2SUPERMAN BEYOND
3MOBIUS
4SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE
This guy origin story have no constancy........
Anyway,back to topic.I personally think it's should be AM
Monitor already managed to chained barbatos in dark metal ending
And AM even before he start absoring positive-matter universes,was already an equal to Monitor
Originally posted by Galan007*This is further corroborated in Anti-Monitor's bio from the DC Encyclopedia (2016):
The implication is that it's all the same guy, yeah.
Originally posted by Galan007
*This is further corroborated in Anti-Monitor's bio from the DC Encyclopedia (2016):
https://i.imgur.com/9wJkryC.jpg
wow thanks this clear it up perfectly
I think as long as you are above a certain level in DC, crisis reboot will not affect you
