Originally posted by Patient_LeechAs someone who was blown up in Cairo by Ansar Bayt, a muslim terrorist organisation allied to ISIS at the time and has observed terrorism first hand on a number of occasions, I will state these radicals are as disliked by normal muslims as they are by Christians and Atheists like me.
Of the Islamic persuasion? (Is there any other kind?)
Originally posted by Putinbot1
As someone who was blown up in Cairo by Ansar Bayt, a muslim terrorist organisation allied to ISIS at the time and has observed terrorism first hand on a number of occasions, I will state these radicals are as disliked by normal muslims as they are by Christians and Atheists like me.
Possibly more, because they give the religion such a "bad reputation."
But as outsiders looking in, those damn holy books do seem to contain some justification. Allah-forbid anyone talk honestly about that. 🙄
Originally posted by Patient_LeechAgreed,The weirdest one lately was when Breitbart tried to make the Pastoral murders in Nigeria about Islam Vs. Christianity recently.
Possibly more, because they give the religion such a "bad reputation."But as outsiders looking in, those damn holy books do seem to contain some justification. Allah-forbid anyone talk honestly about that. 🙄
https://qz.com/africa/1576853/new-zealand-attack-right-wing-media-uses-nigeria-christian-killings/
To be clear, the reports on the spate of killings in the region are true (even though it’s typically difficult to verify death tolls in Nigeria). The conflicts have been going on intermittently for nearly three years and occasionally surface in international media. But attributing the attacks solely to religious persecution “is a misunderstanding of the actual problem,” says Cheta Nwanze, head researcher at SBM Intel, a Lagos-based intelligence firm that has analyzed conflict in northern Nigeria over the past three years.
“The pastoral conflict is, in reality, primarily a resource conflict [over land] but because it has gone on for so long it is beginning to metastasize and is taking the coloration of a religious and ethnic conflict where it originally was not,” he says. Amnesty International, in a report last December, also noted the root of the attacks lie in communal and pastoral clashes.
As Quartz Africa has previously reported, these conflicts had overtaken Boko Haram as Nigeria’s biggest internal security problem as of two years ago.
“It appears to be classic “whataboutism”— an age-old Russian propaganda technique that the American right has warmly embraced,” says Matthew Page, associate fellow, Africa Programme, Chatham House. It’s easy to reach that conclusion as right-leaning platforms mainly appear to be reporting the attacks in Nigeria only to point out the lack of coverage in global media in comparison to the New Zealand attack.
Indeed, Breitbart reports that its Rome bureau chief Thomas Williams “describes ‘mainstream media’s’ response to the massacring of Nigerian Christians as ‘silence’ in comparison to its approach towards last Friday’s mass murder of Muslims in Christchurch, New Zealand.”
“Presumably they are trying to meet a demand signal from their readership for countervailing narratives that distract from the uptick in white nationalism worldwide that has occurred over the course of Trump’s tenure in office,” Page says.
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Are you all going to pretend you would ever have considered the death of 120 black Nigerians newsworthy, if it did not serve in your mind as a narrative counterpoint the Christchurch story you are uncomfortable with?
Leave us out of your culture war.
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The media is so dishonest. 120 Christians killed by Muslims in Nigeria this week. Why the blackout on Christian persecution? Both tragedies are newsworthy. https://twitter.com/FreddieMillerJ3/status/1107124721550876673 …
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The reports will achieve one thing as they bring increased awareness to the long-running internal security problems which Nigeria’s political leaders have handled poorly to date. But the increased attention is not guaranteed to deliver a change of fortunes in the region.
Indeed, during Nigeria’s president Buhari’s state visit to the US last May, Donald Trump claimed the US will be “working” on the “very serious problem” of murdered Christians in Nigeria. So far though, there’s very little evidence to suggest his statement was followed with action or that it was anything more than a populist play to rally his vast evangelical base.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Possibly more, because they give the religion such a "bad reputation."But as outsiders looking in, those damn holy books do seem to contain some justification. Allah-forbid anyone talk honestly about that. 🙄
Yet we're also told calling them "islamic terrorists" is bad because it would offend non-terrorist muslims.
I'm not even kidding this is a legit argument that has been made lol.
So if you're a white guy and you're told white men who rape are pieces of dog shit and you yourself aren't a rapist...do you get butthurt over it?
Originally posted by Surtur
Yet we're also told calling them "islamic terrorists" is bad because it would offend non-terrorist muslims.I'm not even kidding this is a legit argument that has been made lol.
So if you're a white guy and you're told white men who rape are pieces of dog shit and you yourself aren't a rapist...do you get butthurt over it?
That's an example of the Left eating itself.
Speaking of the Left eating itself, I recently came across this guy trashing Sam Harris for his criticism of Islam and it got on my nerves. He starts out by calling Harris an "a**hole," which is the first red flag that he's not going to be particularly fair. 🙄 I only watched about the first 1/3 of it, but I noticed some less-than-honest tactics, so I couldn't stomach anymore...
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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's an example of the Left eating itself.Speaking of the Left eating itself, I recently came across this guy trashing Sam Harris for his criticism of Islam and it got on my nerves. He starts out by calling Harris an "a**hole," which is the first red flag that he's not going to be particularly fair. 🙄 I only watched about the first 1/3 of it, but I noticed some less-than-honest tactics, so I couldn't stomach anymore...
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A big problem on the internet is confirmation bias, I think everyone is a victim and a perpetrator. We can all find supporters of our entrenched positions, so we get no real dialogue. Real life is like it too, people rarely change opinions. I think most people don't want to.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
A big problem on the internet is confirmation bias, I think everyone is a victim and a perpetrator. We can all find supporters of our entrenched positions, so we get no real dialogue. Real life is like it too, people rarely change opinions. I think most people don't want to.
Oh, yeah. And the other problem with the internet is that you can find just about any opinion to confirm that you want.
For example, my dad has sent me articles from Answers in Genesis trying to dissuade me of my heathen evolutionary ways. Ugh... that site is nauseating.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's an example of the Left eating itself.Speaking of the Left eating itself, I recently came across this guy trashing Sam Harris for his criticism of Islam and it got on my nerves. He starts out by calling Harris an "a**hole," which is the first red flag that he's not going to be particularly fair. 🙄 I only watched about the first 1/3 of it, but I noticed some less-than-honest tactics, so I couldn't stomach anymore...
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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Hm.. what else is he known for? Anything that I should be aware of?Cause the video is surprisingly well done, he's just intellectually dishonest.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot another one. Steve has himself admitted that if he had the power, he would actively censor people whose opinions differ from his own.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
He's known for blocking anyone who even remotely disagrees with his social justice-y, intersectional identity politics and for making a weird video where his own wife basically berates him for being a white, straight male and liking "problematic" shows like 'Angel'. He looks physically intimidated in said video.
Okay, that's interesting. Because he did say he would delete certain comments.
If you can provide links when you get a chance I'd be curious.
Thanks.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Okay, that's interesting. Because he did say he would delete certain comments.If you can provide links when you get a chance I'd be curious.
Thanks.
I haven't found the weird video with his wife, but I'll keep looking.
Originally posted by Patient_LeechHaha, true, at least he has a sense of humour.
Oh, yeah. And the other problem with the internet is that you can find just about any opinion to confirm that you want.For example, my dad has sent me articles from Answers in Genesis trying to dissuade me of my heathen evolutionary ways. Ugh... that site is nauseating.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
It becomes clear why you are so strongly against religion now. At least the two of you still get on which is good.
Yeah, we get along. We just don't talk about religion. 🙂
And unfortunately it seems nothing is going to make my dad lose his faith. Not even the death of his first born (my oldest brother) 13 years ago. Cause of death: suicide, basically brought on by religion.
Originally posted by Patient_LeechShit, while I can't imagine how painful that was for you all. I can totally see how it would shape your opinions — my sincere condolences.
Yeah, we get along. We just don't talk about religion. 🙂And unfortunately it seems nothing is going to make my dad lose his faith. Not even the death of his first born (my oldest brother) 13 years ago. Cause of death: suicide, basically brought on by religion.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's an example of the Left eating itself.Speaking of the Left eating itself, I recently came across this guy trashing Sam Harris for his criticism of Islam and it got on my nerves. He starts out by calling Harris an "a**hole," which is the first red flag that he's not going to be particularly fair. 🙄 I only watched about the first 1/3 of it, but I noticed some less-than-honest tactics, so I couldn't stomach anymore...
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I think it's because they view Christianity as a set of ideas... but they view Islam as a race for some reason.