Sri Lankan bombings

Originally posted by Surtur
I mean, most of this terrorism comes from countries with heavy muslim populations lol. So it's true to say most victims are muslims because...again: logic.

Just like more whites die in this country at the hands of cops compared to blacks, but then this makes sense cuz we kinda out number them.

So you just gotta laugh at any retard bending over backwards to go "Bingo!" to this "revelation". Nobody in this thread even asserted anything to the contrary, but it needed to be cried about specifically in this thread cuz...I dunno, the muslims are the real victims here.

Originally posted by carthage
Thor is right
very clearly Islam is the only religion and people that suffer from the rare occurrence of suicide bombings, beheadings, forced prostitution/subjugation of ethnic minorities, taking over entire destabilized regions and then forcing people into their religion

Muslims are clearly the victims here

You guys are both displaying your lack of compassion and also completely missing the point.

The point is that people who criticize Islam are often accused of being bigoted and hateful towards Muslims, but it is primarily Muslims who are the victims of the anti-liberal values, misogyny, and violence (etc) that is pushed through Islam. So, to speak out in criticism of Islam is to care about the primary victims of it: Muslims.

And don't forget about apostates because it is a crime punishable by death. These are the people we need more and more of: critics of the faith.

And of course, on the other side of this there's the idea that even moderate Muslims, to the degree that they push the Koran, Sharia Law, etc, also provide legitimacy for the extreme violence. But no doubt the majority of them are indoctrinated and sheltered from birth and therefore not entirely culpable.

Originally posted by carthage
Thor is right
very clearly Islam is the only religion and people that suffer from the rare occurrence of suicide bombings, beheadings, forced prostitution/subjugation of ethnic minorities, taking over entire destabilized regions and then forcing people into their religion

Muslims are clearly the victims here

And whose usually the target of those Suicide Bombings and Beheadings? Oh thats right - Muslims.

But as for Beheadings, Do you guys not still have the Electric chair? And of course aerial bombardment is so much more moral than suicide bombings.

Forced prostitution of Minorities? Yeah theres no forced prostitution anywhere else in the world, and certainly no prejudice towards Minorities.

You mean criminals taking over destabilised regions which our countries destabilised? Yeah the Irony there.

Yeah its not like Christianity has any history of forced conversions anywhere right?

Have to love all the stupidity in this post of yours though Carthage.

Originally posted by Surtur
Christianity under attack? Sri Lanka church bombings stoke far-right anger in the West.

Stay classy Washington Post. And for those still too stunned to even think given the great revelation we just had, let Surtur translate this article for you:

When muslims are killed en masse we have to worry about those mean right wing christians.

When christians are killed en masse we...still have to worry about those mean right wing christians.

Or we could just worry about hatred to all faiths and minorities.

Are you on board with that Surtur?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Or we could just worry about hatred to all faiths and minorities.

Are you on board with that Surtur?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
You guys are both displaying your lack of compassion and also completely missing the point.

The point is that people who criticize Islam are often accused of being bigoted and hateful towards Muslims, but it is primarily Muslims who are the victims of the anti-liberal values, misogyny, and violence (etc) that is pushed through Islam. So, to speak out in criticism of Islam is to care about the primary victims of it: Muslims.

And don't forget about apostates because it is a crime punishable by death. These are the people we need more and more of: critics of the faith.

And of course, on the other side of this there's the idea that even moderate Muslims, to the degree that they push the Koran, Sharia Law, etc, also provide legitimacy for the extreme violence. But no doubt the majority of them are indoctrinated and sheltered from birth and therefore not entirely culpable.

Sure, I care about any innocent muslim. They don't deserve to get exploded because they don't measure up to some nutjobs vision of what it means to be a muslim.

I don't like the enablers, but then it's a cult and they've been brainwashed so...yeah.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Or we could just worry about hatred to all faiths and minorities.

Are you on board with that Surtur?

It's not that the attitude you are referencing right now is something I disagree with, it's just that I can't help noticing that when there are attacks like this we see attitudes like yours more often(lets fight all hate) as opposed to the attitudes we see following something like christ church, where there was a specific focus on the ideology behind what lead to it.

Just an observation.

^ I think theres been plenty of focus on the Ideology of ISIS and similar groups. I personally dont feel anyone is exactly ignorant of that.

But focusing on that specific ideology over other hate attacks, just spars on more hate to a specific group, 99% of whom are completely innocent and shouldnt need to defend themselves.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's not that the attitude you are referencing right now is something I disagree with, it's just that I can't help noticing that when there are attacks like this we see attitudes like yours more often(lets fight all hate) as opposed to the attitudes we see following something like christ church, where there was a specific focus on the ideology behind what lead to it.

Just an observation.

I see what you mean, it's sort of a double-standard...

White Supremacist commits atrocity - "oh the horrible ideology."
Muslim extremist commits atrocity - "there's nothing wrong with Islam."

That's the Left showing its deficiency in dealing honestly with the problem. But I think it's coming around, slowly but surely.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I see what you mean, it's sort of a double-standard...

[b]White Supremacist commits atrocity - "oh the horrible ideology."
Muslim extremist commits atrocity - "there's nothing wrong with Islam."

[/B]

Thats not a double standard at all Lol

In the first the Horrible Ideology is that of WHITE SUPREMACY

In the second youre trying to make an entire faith and its 1.3billion followers as responsible/dangerous.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I see what you mean, it's sort of a double-standard...

[b]White Supremacist commits atrocity - "oh the horrible ideology."
Muslim extremist commits atrocity - "there's nothing wrong with Islam."

That's the Left showing its deficiency in dealing honestly with the problem. But I think it's coming around, slowly but surely. [/B]

I mean does anyone seriously think theres not enough condemnation in the media against Islamist Extremists? Like really?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I mean does anyone seriously think theres not enough condemnation in the media against Islamist Extremists? Like really?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats not a double standard at all Lol

In the first the Horrible Ideology is that of WHITE SUPREMACY

In the second youre trying to make an entire faith and its 1.3billion followers as responsible/dangerous.

The problem is with the Left not addressing the fact that Islam (more than any other religion) disproportionately produces extremists. Why is that? Funny that they never look at the actual doctrines... hm..

I know this seems crazy to say, but: Not all religions are the same! *shock*

And Islam is awful.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The problem is with the Left not addressing the fact that Islam (more than any other religion) disproportionately produces extremists. Why is that? Funny that they never look at the actual doctrines... hm.

I know this seems crazy to say, but: Not all religions are the same! *shock*

And Islam is awful.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
You see Islam isn't all Wahabi and does vary culture greatly to culture. I'd be interested to know where those figures come from and a nation by nation breakdown, because it's not my experience outside Pakistan and the Arab world.

I'm glad you brought that up. Because I don't remember the statistics off the top of my head, but even the numbers on some of those issues among British Muslims would surprise you.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
You see Islam isn't all Wahabi and does vary culture greatly to culture. I'd be interested to know where those figures come from and a nation by nation breakdown, because it's not my experience outside Pakistan and the Arab world.

Egypt, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, the UK, etc.

There is a country by country breakdown. In places like Egypt, it was over 90% support for death for leaving Islam/becoming atheist.

As Patient Leech said, some of the results by country would shock you.

Mormons are not much better so don't interpret this as me feeling superior. 😉

The fact that these aren't all 100% unfavorable should be disturbing to everyone.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Egypt, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, the UK, etc.

There is a country by the country breakdown. In places like Egypt, it was over 90% support for death for leaving Islam/becoming an atheist.

As Patient Leech said, some of the results by country would shock you.

Mormons are not much better so don't interpret this as me feeling superior. 😉

A friend of mine, Secil's husband, had his leg irreparably damaged in Taksim square Turkey demonstrating against Erdogan's anti Secular measures about five years ago.

Although, I will grant you I don't mix with average Muslim people much. So perhapsvwhat I see is also skewed.

It's interesting, Patient_Leech has been associated with the alt-right by one or two people on here iirc, but he's more of a Sam Harris type.

The progressives largescale accept that there isn't some nefarious dangerous bigotry when the Sam Harris Dawkins types criticize Christianity, but they criticize Islam... and everyone loses their minds!

Ideology and culture cannot be a characteristic shielded from criticism by moral busybodies.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
It's interesting, Patient_Leech has been associated with the alt-right by one or two people on here iirc, but he's more of a Sam Harris type.

The progressives largescale accept that there isn't some nefarious dangerous bigotry when the Sam Harris Dawkins types criticize Christianity, but they criticize Islam... and everyone loses their minds!

Ideology and culture cannot be a characteristic shielded from criticism by moral busybodies.