Originally posted by Surtur
You know I was wondering why we haven't seen much talk of the guy in california who drove his car into a group of people cuz he though they were muslims...but then I saw a picture of the guy and what race he is and now I 100% understand.
Originally posted by Surtur
Sunnyvale crash suspect targeted people he believed were Muslim, police say
Complains that the mainstream media is not reporting this. Cites CNN.
Originally posted by DMB
Don’t be disingenuous, you know what he means. They aren’t having panel over panel drumming up outrage for it.
Right, it gets reported, just not repetitively for 24-hours because it's inconvenient for pushing a certain agenda.
We know this. We know mainstream networks (not just CNN) do this.
Move on.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'd say society is improving along some dimensions and regressing along others.
Yeah, this country used to produce 50% of all the goods in the world.
And the crazed leftists screaming "tax the f*ck out of the rich!" need to be slapped upside the head if they try to 100% dismiss the past. What was it, a 90% tax rate under Eisenhower?
Originally posted by Surtur..The reason we don't anymore is cause we are richer than the countries that are absorbing our factory jobs, thus we are more expensive to employ. Free trade ftw amirite?
Yeah, this country used to produce 50% of all the goods in the world.And the crazed leftists screaming "tax the f*ck out of the rich!" need to be slapped upside the head if they try to 100% dismiss the past. What was it, a 90% tax rate under Eisenhower?
Originally posted by MythLord
There was never a time of universal peace and morality for mankind. Ever. But quite frankly, I'd think the way we are currently is better than what we were... ever.
I agree with you. But two things about that...
1. Fundamentalist Christians think there was a time of universal peace and morality in the Garden of Eden and man had a "fall" out of favor with God. Of course they're deluded, but that's what they think.
2. Yes, apparently Steven Pinker has become famous for writing a book on the subject of overall improvements in most metrics you can think of: The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined.
Originally posted by mike brown
that statement would be true at any time in historyBut all in all I'd much rather live now than any other time in history
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I question whether there is even much regression now. Slow progression isn't necessarily regression. Even Saudi Arabia (I think it was) just allowed women to drive.. that was news a year or so ago. And it's hard to get much more backwards than Saudi Arabia.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
👆I question whether there is even much regression now. Slow progression isn't necessarily regression. Even Saudi Arabia (I think it was) just allowed women to drive.. that was news a year or so ago. And it's hard to get much more backwards than Saudi Arabia.
Mental and physical health is declining in many countries.
Just because there are fewer homicides and rapes does not mean we have improved, overall.
Overall, it is better, yes. But compared to 1970-ish, I'd say it is worse.
Far more single parents (hooray for the destruction of the family unit, right?).
Racial income inequality is greater now than in 1970 (hooray for the civil rights movement, right?).
Suicides are up to an all time high over the last 30 years.
We are fare fatter than in 1970.
Mental health issues, especially depression and multiple kinds of psychosis, are at an all time high.
And healthcare costs are out of control vastly eclipsing inflation rates.
In our pursuits of bigger, better, and more equal, we've made things worse. While a racist person might be drowned by a crowds spit if he or she spoke racism, that doesn't even come close to offsetting our other issues. Great, racism and sexism are tolerated less than ever. That's progress, for sure. But those other issues need to be resolved and are definitely more important - every single one of them are more important.
^ Yeah, good point on mental health and various healthcare costs.
But the US has terrible healthcare anyway. I think we're one of the worst in the developed world.
I've been battle some healthcare nonsense lately due to allergies and it's been a f#cking nightmare, super expensive with new bills showing up months after. It's ridiculous.
So yeah, healthcare is an exception, but at least technology and research to help treat is getting better. It's just the implementation is problematic to say the least.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I agree with you. But two things about that...1. Fundamentalist Christians think there was a time of universal peace and morality in the Garden of Eden and man had a "fall" out of favor with God. Of course they're deluded, but that's what they think.
2. Yes, apparently Steven Pinker has become famous for writing a book on the subject of overall improvements in most metrics you can think of: The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
^ Yeah, good point on mental health and various healthcare costs.But the US has terrible healthcare anyway. I think we're one of the worst in the developed world.
I've been battle some healthcare nonsense lately due to allergies and it's been a f#cking nightmare, super expensive with new bills showing up months after. It's ridiculous.
So yeah, healthcare is an exception, but at least technology and research to help treat is getting better. It's just the implementation is problematic to say the least.
Honestly, fixing healthcare (and including mental healthcare as part of that set) by offering something like Medicare for All would address many of these issues.
Include Socio-Economic Mobility and racial disparities. Crazy how all these things are tied to healthcare and healthcare costs.
Want to vastly improve the US Economy, long term? Make it to where healthcare is affordable for the other 2/3 of Americans. 🙂 And improve the quality and types of healthcare offered. Focus on preventative care instead of reactive care like NHS.
Fixing this alone would address all the items I brought up (but to varying degrees, in each). Single motherhood would drop, mental health would improve, physical health would improve, people would miss work less often, people would have the ability to attend college or obtain skills (due to an increase in the availability of money), businesses would spend less on healthcare insurance (driving up their profits), racial inequality would not be as pronounced because now the poor can get quality healthcare (and keep jobs or get jobs).
It's a win win win win win win win. That's a lot of wins.