Originally posted by Zucc
Do you think would they have recognised that free speech should extend to the dominant social media platforms (i:e where most of speech today happens) or not ?
They'd probably be confused as to why free speech rights don't extend there while at the same time a court in the past has ruled that President Trump is not allowed to block people on twitter lol.
They'd also probably be confused over how, given that ruling, Twitter is allowed to permanently ban anyone from their platform...since it denies them the ability to engage with Trump.
EDIT: To answer your question, yeah I think they'd recognize it. I think they'd realize it's becoming more and more akin to the public square.
Re: If the founding fathers were around today...
Originally posted by ZuccFirst they'd have to be given a long reeducation on how to speak and navigate 21st century American English. That will include catching them up on world history, including the technological boom that took place since they died. They'll need this knowledge to understand what exactly a "social media platform" is. Hopefully they can pass the class explains to them what telecommunications and fluorescent lightbulbs are. Might have to explain to them electrons too.
Do you think would they have recognised that free speech should extend to the dominant social media platforms (i:e where most of speech today happens) or not ?
But I'm sure that the wonders and terrors of the mechanized/nuclear/space/digital age will pale in comparison to what someone's political opinion is. After all, the Founding Fathers were close-minded partisans who didn't care about human progress and who only understood and spoke with a narrow-minded lack of ingenuity and curiosity.
Our Founding Fathers would be confounded at how so many people praise democracy and erroneously think that is the government type they gave us even after all the bashing they gave it time after time in quote after quote and ended up giving us a republic instead which is an infinitely superior government type.
If you hate our Founding Fathers and the principles this country was founded on then perhaps you should move to a different country.
The founders did not endorse slavery. They just couldn't do much about it at the time and would've eventually gotten rid of it.
Now of course this thread is gonna go way off topic for 15 pages because someone brought up slavery.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
If you hate our Founding Fathers and the principles this country was founded on then perhaps you should move to a different country.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
The founders did not endorse slavery. They just couldn't do much about it at the time and would've eventually gotten rid of it.Now of course this thread is gonna go way off topic for 15 pages because someone brought up slavery.
That eventually was apparently after a few decades?
Our Founding Fathers were very wise God-fearing (most of them) people. I always laugh my a** off at snotty little know-it-alls in this day and age who think they're wiser than our Founders and arrogantly think they know better than our founders did how our nation should be run. Talk about delusions of grandeur... smh.
Originally posted by MythLord
I -- thank Heavens -- do not live in America. And even if I did, I still have the right to critize a consititution that systematically oppressed an entire race for generations, and still indirectly does it today.
It's funny how those who pretend to be so pro-America freely do away with even the most basic Democratic virtue at the drop of a hat, the freedom to criticise government.
It's a good thing America is a Democracy 🙂
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaeGiven that the modern political class is the artificial aristocracy and not the "natural aristocracy" that Jefferson spoke of, it's fair to say that all modern Americans (those who are elected and those that elect them) have rejected Madison's line of "No qualification of wealth, of birth, of religious faith, or of civil profession is permitted to fetter the judgement or disappoint the inclination of the people."
If you hate our Founding Fathers and the principles this country was founded on then perhaps you should move to a different country.
The current sitting president is the richest of them all and ran on a campaign boasting about being a billionaire who isn't accountable to outsiders for financial help. And a whole crop of previous presidents come from dynastic families or wealth. And that's saying nothing for the innumerable congressmen or judiciaries.
Originally posted by Surtur
They'd probably be confused as to why free speech rights don't extend there while at the same time a court in the past has ruled that President Trump is not allowed to block people on twitter lol.They'd also probably be confused over how, given that ruling, Twitter is allowed to permanently ban anyone from their platform...since it denies them the ability to engage with Trump.
EDIT: To answer your question, yeah I think they'd recognize it. I think they'd realize it's becoming more and more akin to the public square.
Yeah no kidding. Someone who is supposedly the most poweful person in the world is not allowed to simply block people on twitter lmao. They'd no doubt be scratching their heads over that one.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah no kidding. Someone who is supposedly the most poweful person in the world is not allowed to simply block people on twitter lmao. They'd no doubt be scratching their heads over that one.
I wish someone would explain why Twitter is allowed to deny American citizens a platform to engage the president on.