Originally posted by Robtard
The Witch-king of Angmar, also known as the Lord of the Nazgûl and the Black Captain wins
Agreed.
As long as the Witch King's weapons don't get turned into ice and shattered upon touching the Night King (one of the Whitewalker's did that to a sword in Hardhome), WK should just be able to batter him to death. Night King
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has no combat feats from what I remember on the show save for spearing Theon at Winterfell.
The melee combat showings we have from WK have him stabbing Frodo then losing with the Nazgul to Aragorn at Weathertop and then supernaturally breaking Gandalf's staff and losing to a prophecy-lusted Eowyn and Merry. However, WK was in no danger of losing to Eowyn without the prophecy, and if one were to give movie Aragorn a Valyrian steel-forged Anduril he could probably kill all the whitewalkers and the Night King by his lonesome.
WK wins.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
Agreed.As long as the Witch King's weapons don't get turned into ice and shattered upon touching the Night King (one of the Whitewalker's did that to a sword in Hardhome), WK should just be able to batter him to death. Night King
Spoiler:
has no combat feats from what I remember on the show save for spearing Theon at Winterfell.The melee combat showings we have from WK have him stabbing Frodo then losing with the Nazgul to Aragorn at Weathertop and then supernaturally breaking Gandalf's staff and losing to a prophecy-lusted Eowyn and Merry. However, WK was in no danger of losing to Eowyn without the prophecy, and if one were to give movie Aragorn a Valyrian steel-forged Anduril he could probably kill all the whitewalkers and the Night King by his lonesome.
WK wins.
Thats kinda reaching on the part about Aragorn defeating an entire army by his lonesome. Not gonna happen.
But yeah, Witch King should win this.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Thats kinda reaching on the part about Aragorn defeating an entire army by his lonesome. Not gonna happen.But yeah, Witch King should win this.
My bad, I meant the Whitewalker "council" or just the long-bearded bros in armor with the Witch King. They are like 7-8 deep I think. Not all the wights/whitewalker army as well. I wasn't too clear.
Is the Night King even considered a "man" anymore aside from the male honorific? He's literally a walking ice zombie wizard who can casually raise millions of dead to follow his every command and one-shot a dragon. If anything he's more a force of nature, as winter legit follows him around.
That would mean Durin's Bane for example wouldn't be able to hurt/kill the Witch King because it's considered a male, even though it's a Balrog.
He was one of the First Men that got Dragonglass pushed into his chest by a Child of the Forest. That's what turned him into the Night King more than 10,000 years ago.
But that's a long time to have been a force of nature. And he does have the ability to produce blizzards and snowstorms, and is stronger than the Witch King going by the feats of the White Walkers being far stronger and tougher than humans. And without Dragonglass or Valyrian Steel, would he be able to hurt/kill the Night King?
Originally posted by KingD19
He was one of the First Men that got Dragonglass pushed into his chest by a Child of the Forest. That's what turned him into the Night King more than 10,000 years ago.But that's a long time to have been a force of nature. And he does have the ability to produce blizzards and snowstorms, and is stronger than the Witch King going by the feats of the White Walkers being far stronger and tougher than humans. And without Dragonglass or Valyrian Steel, would he be able to hurt/kill the Night King?
Doubtful, Night king took a full on dragon blast and smiled
Usually when you are one thing, and then transform into something that is completely physically and mystically different from what you were, you can't be considered what you used to be.
Aragorn even directly says the Ringwraith's used to be men, but aren't anymore.
They were once men. Great kings of men. Then Sauron the deceiver gave to them nine rings of power. Blinded by their greed, they took them without question. One by one, they fell into darkness and now they're slaves to His will. They are the Nazgûls, Ringwraiths. Neither living nor dead. At all times, they feel the presence of the Ring. Drawn to the power of the One, they will never stop hunting you." (Strider)
The Night King was magically altered by the Children of the Forest and is now an undying creature of sentient ice and cold that command swarms of the dead. He's as far from a man as you can get.
Dr. Manhattan is a consciousness that makes an energy-based body to interact with people. He still tries to retain his humanity though. And it depends on the Dracula as some vampires can procreate. And most are simply undead but still the gender they were when they were turned. Bot like Night King who isn't even flesh and blood anymore or the witch king who is a...ghost in a suit of armor?