Originally posted by jaden_2.0
You also have to factor in the chances of a teacher having a mental breakdown at chronic overworking and underfunding blasting his own students in the face with his government funded gun and training.
Exactly. How that isn't obvious to everyone I don't know.
It's not like teachers aren't already underappreciated and overworked enough.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Exactly. How that isn't obvious to everyone I don't know.It's not like teachers aren't already underappreciated and overworked enough.
And yet most teachers don't go around beating the shit out of students, etc.
Anyone can have a breakdown, even with training. Shall we disarm all cops?
In nigh 30 years of working with teachers, in multiple schools (again, NYC public high schools), not once was one ever brought to my (the school psychologist's) attention, nor my colleagues' in other schools, due to 'mental breakdown'. When teachers get stressed, typically, overwhelmingly, they take a day off, or worst case, they quit.
Training, testing, arming teachers should involve a volunteer basis, and it should be stressed that this is a defensive, last-resort measure. It is not the teacher's job to find the shooter (that's law enforcement's), only to protect himself and his students, if need be. If a shooter blasts his way into a classroom, it is obviously far better to be armed than be a sitting duck. If my main school had offered such a program, I definitely would've volunteered.
Originally posted by Mindship
In nigh 30 years of working with teachers, in multiple schools (again, NYC public high schools), not once was one ever brought to my (the school psychologist's) attention, nor my colleagues' in other schools, due to 'mental breakdown'. When teachers get stressed, typically, overwhelmingly, they take a day off, or worst case, they quit.Training, testing, arming teachers should involve a volunteer basis, and it should be stressed that this is a defensive, last-resort measure. It is not the teacher's job to find the shooter (that's law enforcement's), only to protect himself and his students, if need be. If a shooter blasts his way into a classroom, it is obviously far better to be armed than be a sitting duck. If my main school had offered such a program, I definitely would've volunteered.
That's cos they never had guns before.
The voice will be in their head. "It's right there. The gun's right there. Just do it. Just shoot the little ****ing bastards and be done with it"
See. See what you've done. This is your fault, Mindship.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0I know that voice. That's why my office was in a corner in the basement.
The voice will be in their head. "It's right there. The gun's right there. Just do it. Just shoot the little ****ing bastards and be done with it"See. See what you've done. This is your fault, Mindship.
Originally posted by Surtur
I guess you have to weigh both sides, there is a chance something bad can happen...as is always the case when a firearm is involved. Weigh that against the lives it could save if someone ever tries to shoot up the school.Of course you also have to factor in the chances of a school shooting, which I do not think are very high. So I don't know.
That pos Kevin in the back row had it coming for too long!
Originally posted by Mindship
In nigh 30 years of working with teachers, in multiple schools (again, NYC public high schools), not once was one ever brought to my (the school psychologist's) attention, nor my colleagues' in other schools, due to 'mental breakdown'. When teachers get stressed, typically, overwhelmingly, they take a day off, or worst case, they quit.Training, testing, arming teachers should involve a volunteer basis, and it should be stressed that this is a defensive, last-resort measure. It is not the teacher's job to find the shooter (that's law enforcement's), only to protect himself and his students, if need be. If a shooter blasts his way into a classroom, it is obviously far better to be armed than be a sitting duck. If my main school had offered such a program, I definitely would've volunteered.
Such a program makes sense.
Unfortunately, many are more fearful of their neighbor with a gun, then they are of an active shooter. A result of a country where many have never had to serve, and never developed the judgement to handle a weapon.
As opposed to someplace like Israel, where they live in a warzone, and service is compulsory.
Originally posted by cdtmWe're a complacent lot, as noted by our treating flip-flops like all-purpose footwear.
Unfortunately, many are more fearful of their neighbor with a gun, then they are of an active shooter. A result of a country where many have never had to serve, and never developed the judgement to handle a weapon.As opposed to someplace like Israel, where they live in a warzone, and service is compulsory.
Originally posted by SurturThe Algebra Honors teacher in my middle school would sometimes break up fights by bodying the students. Nice guy and a good teacher, heard he got fired for it after I went to high school, what a shame.
And yet most teachers don't go around beating the shit out of students, etc.Anyone can have a breakdown, even with training. Shall we disarm all cops?
Originally posted by Surtur
That voice could be saying "hey stab a kid with these scissors" too. Scissor ban yay or nay?
^Still curious. Teachers have easy access to scissors. They could have a mental breakdown and stab a student.
Yes or no do we need to have a serious discussion about scissors in our schools?
Originally posted by Surtur
^Still curious. Teachers have easy access to scissors. They could have a mental breakdown and stab a student.Yes or no do we need to have a serious discussion about scissors in our schools?
Get ready for the "you can't kill as many people with scissors as guns!" argument.
Originally posted by Surtur
Ah but no...moronic leftists can't use that cuz I can counter with "well if it even saves one life!" which is the excuse they use with gun control.Isn't that hilarious?
Yes, it is. Very.
It's also funny how they conveniently forget about that argument when it comes to abortion.