IW Thor vs Thanos with sword

Started by quanchi11212 pages

Originally posted by FrothByte
You claimed Thanos countered Cap's lightning. If what you said is true, then you shouldn't have any problem pointing out the exact time stamp where Thanos countered Cap's lightning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWSatSaMz-g

If you don't want to watch the vid, then please recall from memory the series of actions on how exactly Thanos countered Cap's lightning.

And if you can't recall the exact actions, then we know you don't really know what you're talking about right?

The next time he attacks. If you claim he does not attack you are a liar. We both know how it ended. Thanos did not lose caps backup arrives. If you do not believe he ever had a response for the lightning you believe won the fight and Thanos stopped attacking at that point.

I posted the definition but your Surtur interpretation of a simple word does not change that he did respond to the lightning. Cap was simply outmatched and that is not Thor. Quit trying to substitute a guy with differing skill and a shield as a substitute for Thor. Thanos would have killed that fat depressed loser had cap not jumped in.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Fair enough.

And given its apparently his 2nd fav movie of all time he should have no issue rewatching it in the theatres however many times it takes.

Balance. I will probably rewatch it but my point does not change. Cap did well for a bit but in the end despite his attacks landing Thanos simply overwhelmed him. Broke his shield to shit and drove him back. To suggest cap beat him with lightning is ignoring the rest of the fight and pretending. Thanos recovers his sword and goes onto to just batter cap. It was glorious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The next time he attacks. If you claim he does not attack you are a liar. We both know how it ended. Thanos did not lose caps backup arrives. If you do not believe he ever had a response for the lightning you believe won the fight and Thanos stopped attacking at that point.

I posted the definition but your Surtur interpretation of a simple word does not change that he did respond to the lightning. Cap was simply outmatched and that is not Thor. Quit trying to substitute a guy with differing skill and a shield as a substitute for Thor. Thanos would have killed that fat depressed loser had cap not jumped in.

"The next time he attacks" is very unspecific and does not prove that he countered the lightning. Again, please describe properly and specifically how exactly Thanos countered lightning.

If you can't recall how exactly he did it then it means your opinion on this isn't dependable.

Originally posted by FrothByte
"The next time he attacks" is very unspecific and does not prove that he countered the lightning. Again, please describe properly and specifically how exactly Thanos countered lightning.

If you can't recall how exactly he did it then it means your opinion on this isn't dependable.

If he attacks that means he counters. The definition never says that it only counts if it happens with a timeframe. Cap is not even in this thread. Lol. Thanos responds because the fight did not end. He was not defeated. You avoiding the question and trying to substitute cap for Thor is pathetic.

Thor was already beaten. This thread pertains to Thor. Cap loses too but just relax, kid. I already covered Thanos popping up and responding to Thors lightning at the end of IW.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he attacks that means he counters. The definition never says that it only counts if it happens with a timeframe. Cap is not even in this thread. Lol.

Thor was already beaten. This thread pertains to Thor. Cap loses too but just relax, kid. I already covered Thanos popping up and responding to Thors lightning at the end of IW.

No, you didn't say that Thanos counter-attacked Cap, you specifically said he countered lightning. Please describe how he countered lightning.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, you didn't say that Thanos counter-attacked Cap, you specifically said he countered lightning. Please describe how he countered lightning.
No, you misunderstood he responded to the lightning since he attached after said tactic. If not the fight would have ended due to lightning winning the battle. Plus this is Thor not cap.

Thanos beat them both. I get you want to avoid the facts but we see this play out. Thir has an extra weapon and he still got wrecked.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you misunderstood he responded to the lightning since he attached after said tactic. If not the fight would have ended due to lightning winning the battle. Plus this is Thor not cap.

Thanos beat them both. I get you want to avoid the facts but we see this play out. Thir has an extra weapon and he still got wrecked.

We can discuss Thor after. Since you specifically stated that Thanos countered Cap's lightning, we'll stick with this first till we resolve it. This way we don't end up getting derailed again.

You're claiming that Thanos responded/retaliated directly to the lightning attack, yes? Ok then, please describe to me how exactly Thanos directly responded to Cap's lightning attack.

Or simply link a youtube video of the fight and tell me the specific timestamp of the counter.

Originally posted by FrothByte
We can discuss Thor after. Since you specifically stated that Thanos countered Cap's lightning, we'll stick with this first till we resolve it. This way we don't end up getting derailed again.

You're claiming that Thanos responded/retaliated directly to the lightning attack, yes? Ok then, please describe to me how exactly Thanos directly responded to Cap's lightning attack.

Or simply link a youtube video of the fight and tell me the specific timestamp of the counter.

Thanos did not lose. He recovered and proceeded to gain the advantage. If the fight ended there you could say no counter. I am claiming the fight continued and he recovered to attack and gain the edge.

None discuss Thor because we have Thanos popping up to immediately respond to lightning out of nowhere.

Thanos vs. Thor not Cap though he did best both.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos did not lose. He recovered and proceeded to gain the advantage. If the fight ended there you could say no counter. I am claiming the fight continued and he recovered to attack and gain the edge.

None discuss Thor because we have Thanos popping up to immediately respond to lightning out of nowhere.

Thanos vs. Thor not Cap though he did best both.

Nowhere there did you describe how Thanos countered Cap's lightning. I don't think you even know the meaning of the word "counter".

Please state the source of that definition you provided for the word "counter".

Originally posted by FrothByte
Nowhere there did you describe how Thanos countered Cap's lightning. I don't think you even know the meaning of the word "counter".

Please state the source of that definition you provided for the word "counter".

A response to anothers attack. If you do not lose and attack after that is a counter. You do not need to do it in a timeframe. Nowhere does it state that in the definition.

Google counterattack and it is what appears. If you are unfamiliar with google kindly leave.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A response to anothers attack. If you do not lose and attack after that is a counter. You do not need to do it in a timeframe. Nowhere does it state that in the definition.

Google counterattack and it is what appears. If you are unfamiliar with google kindly leave.

For clarity's sake, please link the exact source you're using for your definitions. That way we both know we're on the same page. It's not an unreasonable request.

By the way, you didn't say Thanos counter attacked. You said he countered Cap's lightning. A counter and a counter attack are two different things.

Originally posted by FrothByte
For clarity's sake, please link the exact source you're using for your definitions. That way we both know we're on the same page. It's not an unreasonable request.

By the way, you didn't say Thanos counter attacked. You said he countered Cap's lightning. A counter and a counter attack are two different things.

Google the word counter attack and it appears at the top.

coun·ter·at·tack
/ˈkoun(t)ərəˌtak/
noun
noun: counter-attack
1.
an attack made in response to one by an enemy or opponent.
verb
verb: counter-attack
1.
attack in response.
"as deputies tried to dislodge him, he counterattacked by forcing through elections"

Counter means counter attacked. That means he responded by attacking after that attack. That is undeniable. No, a counter attack is the same thing. It was a counter attack. Just because you did not grasp that does not mean your narrow minded views upend definitions.

Thor vs Thanos not Cap. You are really bad at debating. You ignore Thanos countering or counter attacking Thor because you are pitiful. Thanos in the end hilariously both them both. Lightning is not impressive.

Quit the semantics Quan. This started on page 3 with you claiming that not only can Thanos's sword defend against Lightning attacks, but that Thanos himself can basically tank an unlimited amount of Lightning.

Originally posted by FrothByte

1. Thanos was unable to counter or block any lightning attacks from Thor or Cap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. We see him deferent energy with his sword. All characters knew the gravity of the situationso it is not reasonable to assume a pretty easy to perform tactic could defeat someone of Thanos skill. Thanos can attack, use his sword, and evade.
Originally posted by FrothByte

Now, where is your proof that Thanos can tank multiple lightning blasts from Thor?
Originally posted by quanchi112
The entire endgame sequence where he tanked hammer shots, shield tosses, Cap marvel attacks, Wanda infinity stone destroying power, and lightning to boot without being close to being physically beaten. Only an idiot would claim fodder lightning has a chance.

^ You were proven wrong by that Endgame scene you apparently refuse to watch. So quit the trolling now.

@Quan - I can't seem to quote you on your last post.

In any case, no, a counter is different from a counter attack. Similar but different. When you counter an attack, you can do so by simply blocking, deflecting or parrying an attack. Or you can counter by overriding their attack with your own. To counter something, it means you meet it with opposing force.

A counterattack, however, takes place after your opponent's attack. It also implies that you attack back, not simply block or parry, etc. It is a retaliation against an attack (but not directly opposing the attack). It's a riposte instead of a parry.

Now, do you want to retract your earlier statement where you stated Thanos was able to counter Cap's lightning and replace that by saying Thanos was able to counterattack Cap after he got shot by lightning?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Quit the semantics Quan. This started on page 3 with you claiming that not only can Thanos's sword defend against Lightning attacks, but that Thanos himself can basically tank an unlimited amount of Lightning.

^ You were proven wrong by that Endgame scene you apparently refuse to watch. So quit the trolling now.

I am saying he can do said tactics or just withstand the lightning. Just because cap hits him with his hammer does not mean he does every single time nor do we ignore the actual outcome of the fight.

The blast hits him, he recovers and then proceeds to beat the shit out of him. He counter attacked since the lightning blast did not end the fight.

I never said he would evade or block all lightning blasts just that it is am option.

We all know who wins the encounter. Focusing on one attack that did not significant harm him in any way is pure h1 trolling while ignoring the outcome.

Originally posted by FrothByte
@Quan - I can't seem to quote you on your last post.

In any case, no, a counter is different from a counter attack. Similar but different. When you counter an attack, you can do so by simply blocking, deflecting or parrying an attack. Or you can counter by overriding their attack with your own. To counter something, it means you meet it with opposing force.

A counterattack, however, takes place after your opponent's attack. It also implies that you attack back, not simply block or parry, etc. It is a retaliation against an attack (but not directly opposing the attack). It's a riposte instead of a parry.

Now, do you want to retract your earlier statement where you stated Thanos was able to counter Cap's lightning and replace that by saying Thanos was able to counterattack Cap after he got shot by lightning?

I copy and pasted the def and it had apostrophes.

No, I implied a counter attack which is what that was in reference to.

So you are arguing over semantics. I never once he blocked said lightning attack he just counter or counter attacked. The imo,ideation of my usage of the word is clear.

I always meant that. You arguing over semantics and being confused is your own problem. Thanos withstood the lightning and easily. He counterattacks and wins the exchange.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I copy and pasted the def and it had apostrophes.

No, I implied a counter attack which is what that was in reference to.

So you are arguing over semantics. I never once he blocked said lightning attack he just counter or counter attacked. The imo,ideation of my usage of the word is clear.

I always meant that. You arguing over semantics and being confused is your own problem. Thanos withstood the lightning and easily. He counterattacks and wins the exchange.

Ok cool your jets, I'm just trying to get clarity. I have no issues admitting that Thanos is capable of counterattacking after receiving an attack. My point was simply that he has been unable to block/counter the lightning attacks.

Are we in agreement then that Thanos is unable to block/counter lightning attacks? As in he's not able to oppose the lightning as it's being thrown at him but rather that he's able to throw a counter attack AFTER he'd already been shot with lightning?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok cool your jets, I'm just trying to get clarity. I have no issues admitting that Thanos is capable of counterattacking after receiving an attack. My point was simply that he has been unable to block/counter the lightning attacks.

Are we in agreement then that Thanos is unable to block/counter lightning attacks?

No, he was caught by that attack. No way is it implied his actions are irrelevant and he is unable to do anything about someone shooting lightning at him.

No. Your premise is absurd.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was caught by that attack. No way is it implied his actions are irrelevant and he is unable to do anything about someone shooting lightning at him.

No. Your premise is absurd.

So then are you claiming that Thanos is able to block, parry, deflect or throw off the lightning attack on his own power as the lightning is being thrown at him (not after)?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So then are you claiming that Thanos is able to block, parry, deflect or throw off the lightning attack on his own power as the lightning is being thrown at him (not after)?
Yes. Just because he did not do it then does not mean he cannot. In any event he can just withstand it because he still wins. It is a very weak attack.