Star Trek: Picard

Either way not canon to original Trek.

30% difference per contract. I don't get that stipulation, everyone knows what it's "supposed" to be, why force them to add differences and ruin the immersion of fans?

Has the 30% thing actually been proven? I'm genuinely asking.

As far as Picard goes, what could have been one of the most poignant scenes in Trek, one that should have made even me cry like a little *****, made me feel nothing. That's how badly they messed it up imo.

Originally posted by cdtm
Either way not canon to original Trek.

30% difference per contract. I don't get that stipulation, everyone knows what it's "supposed" to be, why force them to add differences and ruin the immersion of fans?

actually its canon to the next generation...

Guess Inam in the minority, I really enjoyed it.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
actually its canon to the next generation...

To the "Prime Universe" version of TNG.

Which is still technically alternate reality, in the sense its following along the Abramsverse Trek.

Even the universe Spock came from is an alternate version of the classic series.

There's a lot of material out there showcasing why this is, but it has to do with rights issues.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Has the 30% thing actually been proven? I'm genuinely asking.

As far as Picard goes, what could have been one of the most poignant scenes in Trek, one that should have made even me cry like a little *****, made me feel nothing. That's how badly they messed it up imo.

Yup, it was obvious it wasn't the end. I'm torn because I feel like him

Spoiler:
truly dying

Originally posted by cdtm
To the "Prime Universe" version of TNG.

Which is still technically alternate reality, in the sense its following along the Abramsverse Trek.

Even the universe Spock came from is an alternate version of the classic series.

There's a lot of material out there showcasing why this is, but it has to do with rights issues.

it is actually a combination of both prime tng/ds9 etc and abramstrek

Originally posted by Surtur
Yup, it was obvious it wasn't the end. I'm torn because I feel like him

Spoiler:
truly dying

would have been better, but then...the show is over lol.

I was actually talking about

Spoiler:
Data finally being allowed to die

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
it is actually a combination of both prime tng/ds9 etc and abramstrek

The point is, Abramsverse doesn't exist in the "original" series.

This is like JLA vs Avengers, or any comic book crossover. Technically, none of the events happened the way we read them, because rights issues, and may as well be self contained universes.

I mean, yeah, you can say TNG Picard died, but as far as I'm concerned the original TNG Picard is still enjoying life on his wine orchard.

Series was really good IMO. Looking forward to where the story goes.

That 30% difference is from that Youtube troll Midnights Edge who is nothing but a hatemonger for any thing new from Star Trek.

Hate to break it to some but Picard takes place in the prime timeline. It's completely canon.

Originally posted by cdtm
To the "Prime Universe" version of TNG.

Which is still technically alternate reality, in the sense its following along the Abramsverse Trek.

Even the universe Spock came from is an alternate version of the classic series.

There's a lot of material out there showcasing why this is, but it has to do with rights issues.

Are you talking about the destruction of Romulus? Because that was folded in to canon a while back.

As for Data

Spoiler:
they could have pulled some techno babble and put HIM into the new android. lame.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are you talking about the destruction of Romulus? Because that was folded in to canon a while back.

No, i just mean all pf modern Trek is a "What If" alternate reality. Including Spock and the "Prime Universe" he came from.

Or that's how I hear it.

Also why ignore the dominion war.

finished the season. heavy borrowing from frank herbert and asimov, not that this is bad

Originally posted by Surtur
Also why ignore the dominion war.

Too cool for Nu Trek.

I liked it but I feel like it's not the kind of Trek I really enjoy the most. It's darker than most Trek. Not that being darker is necessarily bad...Deep Space Nine was also darker and more violent. However, DS9 benefited from a time when Trek shows were getting 24-26 episodes per season. So you could have a balance. You could have the dark eps of DS9 and then you also have eps where the plot is they play a vulcan team in baseball or some of them are put in a shuttle and shrunk down...or where they all go to a holodeck vegas and fight mobsters.

Shows like Discovery and Picard lack that balance. Unfortunately, I doubt we will ever see a Trek show with such balance ever again. Picard comes off like a single episode that is 10 hours long. It also feels made more for the people who loved the Nu Trek movies than those who were fans of TNG.

I really like the show in terms of science fiction television. But as for a Trek tv series...ehhh

Originally posted by Surtur
As for Data

Spoiler:
they could have pulled some techno babble and put HIM into the new android. lame.

that was never part of the overall story they wanted to tell...

Originally posted by Surtur
Also why ignore the dominion war.

didn't you watch deep space nine?? dominion war ended long ago

Originally posted by -Pr-
I was actually talking about

Spoiler:
Data finally being allowed to die

. I can't believe that was executed the way it was.

Shit yeah what a disappointment that was.