Trumpers think it would be a better idea for a women to be forced to give birth to a mentally retarded, blind & deaf crippled baby—that will maybe survive a couple years—result in the woman/parents struggling financially and overall worsen their quality of life, than to simply allow an abortion.
Or better yet:
they think anti-abortion is preferable to a woman having a partial miscarriage and dying from septic shock because aborting the rest of the fetus is illegal.
FFS, we'll just see an increase in the number of illegal backdoor clinics which endanger the live's of young teens and women who quite literally cannot afford to give birth and are desperate to rid themselves of the parasite, hence endangering their health and societal wellbeing.
It's like the war on drugs: you can't win.
Originally posted by TempAccount
Trumpers think it would be a better idea for a women to be forced to give birth to a mentally retarded, blind & deaf crippled baby—that will maybe survive a couple years—result in the woman/parents struggling financially and overall worsen their quality of life, than to simply allow an abortion.Or better yet:
they think anti-abortion is preferable to a woman having a partial miscarriage and dying from septic shock because aborting the rest of the fetus is illegal.
FFS, we'll just see an increase in the number of illegal backdoor clinics which endanger the live's of young teens and women who quite literally cannot afford to give birth and are desperate to rid themselves of the parasite, hence endangering their health and societal wellbeing.
It's like the war on drugs: you can't win.
Retards think all Trumpers think women should be forced to give birth to retards.
Also what you're saying is if we make something illegal people will still find ways to get it. Okie dokie, and being consistent: you'd apply that to your silly idea of only the military getting guns, right?
Retarded people have just as much right to life as anyone else.
Oh, and of course he won't be consistent in regards to his retarded "only military should be allowed to have guns". He's a leftist. They aren't exactly know for consistency... or logic, for that matter. They're ruled by their fragile wittle fee fees.
Originally posted by SurturAbortion is a service; guns are a regulated product, duh?
Retards think all Trumpers think women should be forced to give birth to retards.Also what you're saying is if we make something illegal people will still find ways to get it. Okie dokie, and being consistent: you'd apply that to your silly idea of only the military getting guns, right?
I advocate for a Switzerland model where you must have served in the military to own a gun---if I'm being nice to hunters maybe anything outside of a .22 rifle (moderate position). Me advocating for military rule is a radical position comparable to wanting Imperial Japan to return.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Retarded people have just as much right to life as anyone else.Oh, and of course he won't be consistent in regards to his retarded "only military should be allowed to have guns". He's a leftist. They aren't exactly know for consistency... or logic, for that matter. They're ruled by their fragile wittle fee fees.
You don't address the issue of when its a threat to mother's health? Retarded people have a right to life at the cost of worsening the quality of life of others it seems. You should adopt one and tell me how it goes
Originally posted by EmperordmbI think it's weird that a homosexual male has any interest in their vaginas anyway.
Kinda weird how people like Adam likely think I have a responsibility to pay for some stranger's healthcare more than a mother has any degree of responsibility to her own child and in a situation she is responsible for creating.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Doesn't change the fact abortion is murder. PERIOD.
[list=1][*]Murder is the unlawful termination of human life. Abortion is legal. Ergo, abortion is not murder.
[*]Abortion is a medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. A consequence of terminating a pregnancy is the end of the life of a fetus. Your position an entire degree of separation off.[/list]
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
If a woman can't take on the responsibility of a child then she shouldn't be spreading her f***ing legs for some deadbeat who has no intention of taking care of her child. PERIOD.It is not right that an innocent defenseless unborn child has to pay the penalty for someone else's f*ck-up. If a woman doesn't want another person using her body to stay alive then she should make damn sure both the man and herself are using precautions to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. If she still ends up getting pregnant despite said precautions then the baby shouldn't have to suffer for it because the woman knew damn well the risks of having her birth control and the man's condom failing.
Spoken like a true incel.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh yeah, one other thing Adam:According to the idiotic statement of yours I quoted above that would mean a siamese twin could legally kill his or her twin since he/she is using his/her body to stay alive.
Quit making pathetic excuses for mass infantacide.
[list=1][*]The proper term is conjoined twin.
[*]Conjoined twins are often separated, resulting in the death of one. Just like abortion, it is a medical decision made with a doctor, not a legislator.[/list]
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[list=1][*]Murder is the unlawful termination of human life. Abortion is legal. Ergo, abortion is not murder.
Obviously the morality of those acts doesn't change regardless of whether or not it is state sanctioned, it's kinda disingenuous that you break out into semantics in order to pretend at some moral victory.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[*]Abortion is a medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. A consequence of terminating a pregnancy is the end of the life of a fetus. Your position an entire degree of separation off.[/list]
You might have honestly just made the most retarded arguments on this topic I've ever heard. Like... what in the actual **** lmao
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Kinda weird how people like Adam likely think I have a responsibility to pay for some stranger's healthcare more than a mother has any degree of responsibility to her own child and in a situation she is responsible for creating.
Like the 11-year-old girl in Ohio who was raped and impregnated by a 26-year-old, and who is being forced by the state legislature to carry and deliver the baby of her rapist, even though it may result in her own death?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE1. Oregan, Alaska, Colorado, New Mexico, New Jersey, D.C., Vermont and New Hampshire are all set to ban all abortions making it illegal! Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands have already outlawed abortion.....
[list=1][*]Murder is the unlawful termination of human life. Abortion is legal. Ergo, abortion is not murder.[*]Abortion is a medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. A consequence of terminating a pregnancy is the end of the life of a fetus. Your position an entire degree of separation off.[/list]
Spoken like a true incel.
2. It's not just a fetus, zygotes and embryos as well. Besides, the argument is it's still technically a human....
3. You're an idiot.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Like the 11-year-old girl in Ohio who was raped and impregnated by a 26-year-old, and who is being forced by the state legislature to carry and deliver the baby of her rapist, even though it may result in her own death?
1. I'm speaking of consensual sex and a pregnancy that won't kill the mother... you know like 98% of the abortions
2. Danger to the mother's life is an exception I'm willing to make.
3. Rape is something I am ambiguous on as taking either stance violates my principles and I am willing to admit when the extent of my ability to morally reason falls short of an answer.