Originally posted by Delta1938
Writers not highlighting it doesn't mean it's not active given heightened senses is literally standard. Unless you can prove the writer specifically intended Superman didn't have all his senses enhanced, this argument is irrelevant.You didn't answer my question. Did you mean "can he do it for a majority" and poorly worded it because fail is fail, or do you legitimately think Batman can't ever and don't like the arguments being used to show he can?
Logan's senses act in a different capacity from what we've seen in concerns to his olfactory.
Either wa,y that isn't the pillar of my argument so much as Batman knows Superman down to the genetic coding and has prepped for his entire team with successful counter measures in multiple ways.
What Batman can do in concerns to Supes isn't, imo, the same as what he can pull off with another character at random, especially if that character has an equivalent training/background.
(Logan has Batman matched in fictional ninja goofiness which arguably does give Batman some edge in skill/training against most metas/supers he's around.)
And, Superman's superior range of senses still don't make up for Logan's random undisclosed 6th sense that he's proven to have when presented with opposition that ought not to have been sensed in the first place.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Logan's senses act in a different capacity from what we've seen in concerns to his olfactory.
Either wa,y that isn't the pillar of my argument so much as Batman knows Superman down to the genetic coding and has prepped for his entire team with successful counter measures in multiple ways.
What Batman can do in concerns to Supes isn't, imo, the same as what he can pull off with another character at random, especially if that character has an equivalent training/background.
(Logan has Batman matched in fictional ninja goofiness which arguably does give Batman some edge in skill/training against most metas/supers he's around.)
And, Superman's superior range of senses still don't make up for Logan's random undisclosed 6th sense that he's proven to have when presented with opposition that ought not to have been sensed in the first place.
So "nuh uh doesn't count." The straw grasping.
You might also want to look atDS' scans, for someone arguing "this isn't all my argument" you're apparently fixated on Superman doesn't count despite better feats 'cuz reasons while not acknowledging a number of otther examples your mental gymnastics against Superman doesn't cover.
No reason to ignore the high end from both characters unless you're fixated towards a bias leaning. jn
There's a possibility Batman can sneak up on Logan. I'm not near convinced that he definitely would or would for a majority out of 10. Your use of Logan's low end while ignoring his high end doesn't convince me otherwise.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Wolverine has danger sensory feats that aren't covered by Superman's superior senses; All there is to it.Mental gymnastics; Like you or whoever else ignoring Wolverine sensing danger when there was nothing physical to perceive? Right.
Except Superman can see auras. Nothing physical there. Yet he can see them.
And couldn't detect Batman.
The Spectre......I mean, are you going to suggest the Spectre can't perceive immaterial things ?
He couldn't detect Batman.
Bucky covered himself in ink and snuck attacked Wolverine. Where was this danger sensor? The Wolvie sense?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No reason to ignore the high end from both characters unless you're fixated towards a bias leaning. jn
There's a possibility Batman can sneak up on Logan. I'm not near convinced that he definitely would or would for a majority out of 10. Your use of Logan's low end while ignoring his high end doesn't convince me otherwise.
Well, what are BATMAN'S low showings of sneaking? Let's be consistent.
High end Batman is sneaking past the Wrath of God himself.
Low end Batman is......?
High end Wolverine can detect air pressure changes (something that WW can do as well, btw: Batman still snuck by her)
Low end Wolverine? Puck, apparently lmao.
That isn't a reason to ignore Logan's high end in a discussion about capabilities. Low ends are red herrings for this discussion which is why they aren't convincing in a conversation of probabilities.
Air pressure changes? Logan's picked up on ghosts and characters that had cloaking devices rendering them "completely undetectable" except for Wolverine sensing them anyway.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Wolverine has danger sensory feats that aren't covered by Superman's superior senses; All there is to it.Mental gymnastics; Like you or whoever else ignoring Wolverine sensing danger when there was nothing physical to perceive? Right.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No reason to ignore the high end from both characters unless you're fixated towards a bias leaning. jn
There's a possibility Batman can sneak up on Logan. I'm not near convinced that he definitely would or would for a majority out of 10. Your use of Logan's low end while ignoring his high end doesn't convince me otherwise.
You've gone from mental gymnastics to dismiss feats and complaining that people are arguing Batman can at all to bringing up strawmen and arguing a vague "danger sense"(can you even prove it's a literal sixth sense and not he's good enough it acts like a 6th sense) to not outright dismissing Superman's feats but saying they don't make up for this supposed sixth sense, and complaining Batman's feats won't make it a majority.
This is..... sorta progress. But initially I didn't care beyond you arguing it wouldn't be at all. Now I'm thinking Batman can do it for a majority, even arguing the high ends for both, after the examples outside Superman, including examples that should be similar to this "danger sense," that DarkSaint showed. Especially after all the arguments you made to dismiss Superman, going into detail that would only apply to Superman.
