Match The Feat

Yeah the other two are just being stupid, lol.

I mean, Carver gets all jizzy over Gladiator and his dead rock.

AND Glads needed several hits. AND he wasn't half dead....

I think the whole premise here is out of whack for a few different reasons. If you're enjoying having a "How many angels could dance on the head of a pin?" discussion, please ignore my thread-crapping.

What is shown there is out of step with how superman's flight power is usually shown to work. Comics are not always consistent, of course, but it makes it hard to draw meaningful comparisons.

Putting that aside, this event is solidly in the realm of Comic Book Physics, it's Rule of Cool driven event.

Pushing off something so hard that it breaks apart doesn't propel you any faster, and is quite likely less effective ordinary jumping would be. It's like suddenly flooring your gas-pedal on a gravel road, your tires spin and dirt and rocks fly out behind you, but you don't actually accelerate very efficiently.

Even if he's pushing with his leg muscles with so much sudden impulse that even as he's pushing off the planet the counter-force is such that his foot makes the rock underneath him move faster than the speed-of-sound-through-rock, that "planet" would have to be structured very differently than anything we're aware of to break apart like that.

While it's fine to have a "Heracles wrestles the river to make it change course and flow through the stables." sort of story-telling in a comic book, it's not something you can really use as a basis for rigorous comparisons to anything else, since it's not based on any sort of rules we understand, other than the Rule of Cool.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
I think the whole premise here is out of whack for a few different reasons. If you're enjoying having a "How many angels could dance on the head of a pin?" discussion, please ignore my thread-crapping.

What is shown there is out of step with how superman's flight power is usually shown to work. Comics are not always consistent, of course, but it makes it hard to draw meaningful comparisons.

Putting that aside, this event is solidly in the realm of Comic Book Physics, it's Rule of Cool driven event.

Pushing off something so hard that it breaks apart doesn't propel you any faster, and is quite likely less effective ordinary jumping would be. It's like suddenly flooring your gas-pedal on a gravel road, your tires spin and dirt and rocks fly out behind you, but you don't actually accelerate very efficiently.

Even if he's pushing with his leg muscles with so much sudden impulse that even as he's pushing off the planet the counter-force is such that his foot makes the rock underneath him move faster than the speed-of-sound-through-rock, that "planet" would have to be structured very differently than anything we're aware of to break apart like that.

While it's fine to have a "Heracles wrestles the river to make it change course and flow through the stables." sort of story-telling in a comic book, it's not something you can really use as a basis for rigorous comparisons to anything else, since it's not based on any sort of rules we understand, other than the Rule of Cool.

Too true.

However, for the premises of this thread, it SHOULD be somewhat comparable, as we're using comic characters who are equally 'cool', who also violate RL logic through comic physics.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Too true.

However, for the premises of this thread, it SHOULD be somewhat comparable, as we're using comic characters who are equally 'cool', who also violate RL logic through comic physics.

In that case the answer is, "Any of them could, provided there's a page or two of dramatic buildup, especially if their name is on the cover of the book."

Originally posted by Laminator_X
In that case the answer is, "Any of them could, provided there's a page or two of dramatic buildup, especially if their name is on the cover of the book."

Then the next stage would be could ANYONE do it (for example, would it be feasible -given what we know so far of the character - for say, Batman to do it?

Then we slowly move up the rankings, as it were. Sabretooth? Venom? Colossus? Etc etc.

But if you think the cutoff point is below all the characters named in the thread, then that's fair enough. The next question would be,'Based on?'

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Too true.

However, for the premises of this thread, it SHOULD be somewhat comparable, as we're using comic characters who are equally 'cool', who also violate RL logic through comic physics.

But you're using real world logic throughout this thread. 😮

Originally posted by carver9
But you're using real world logic throughout this thread. 😮

Because you guys started it first with this 'small planet' rubbish lmao

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because you guys started it first with this 'small planet' rubbish lmao

😂 ... how is that comparable to using real world logic for this? Either something is small for its size or not. Did you just make this up? Just typed the first thing that came to your mind and hit send?

Originally posted by carver9
😂 ... how is that comparable to using real world logic for this? Either something is small for its size or not. Did you just make this up? Just typed the first thing that came to your mind and hit send?

What does it's size have to do with anything? Lmao

Edit:. Take deep breaths and think before you post haha. If you're trying to down play the feat because small planet needs less energy to break (lol), that's.....well, that's RL logic there my man.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What does it's size have to do with anything? Lmao

Edit:. Take deep breaths and think before you post haha. If you're trying to down play the feat because small planet needs less energy to break (lol), that's.....well, that's RL logic there my man.

Size matters for Carver, I guess.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Size matters for Carver, I guess.

It's so weird.

Instead of showcasing Thor, or Surfer's jumping feats, they instead straight away go to try and down play the feat.

Why don't you guys just say yes or no, then post scans supporting your claim?

'Yes, Thor can do it; here's a scan of his jumping breaking a similar item/smaller planet/larger planet/whatever'

'No, he can't do it, as he has no feats to support it'.

Was that so hard?? Lol.

But nooooo. Darksaint eats a ham the size of a car, but we don't know if it was a hollow ham, or what specific car size it was, or if it was honey roasted, or if he has a portal in his stomach....

Edit: in the next thread, I'll have Liefeld character disembowelling their opponent with a kick, 'because the art shows them to have really pointy feet', lmao. The entire planet feat is literally being dismissed by some because 'the art makes it look small'.....

Truly, we are in a golden age of KMC.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except the "punch" didn't even make a craters in the ground and the planet is shattered by the jump.

You don't know what the punch does or doesn't do to the ground. You don't know what the jump does to the ground. All we know is that we see him clearly punch the ground and in the next panel, he is in the air. Then the next panel shows the planet crumbling beneath him.

There is a bit of ambiguity here. Clearly, the punch has significance. Otherwise, it would not have been included. So if the jump is significant to the planet's destruction, it is the jump on top of the punch that destroys it.

Also, in the real world, the force exerted against a surface that you are jumping off of is greater than the force exerted against that surface by a punch.

So do Surfer, Thor et Al have similar feats?

I agree with everything stated here.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... it was designed just for him. No sunlight, nothing. Crazy thing is, an untold amount of Supermen died there...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41202046/Screenshot_20190527-160032_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41202047/Screenshot_20190527-160055_Chrome.jpg.html

It even states it isnt meant to escape. Explains why the guy is struggling.

That’s because the main Superman is special and is more powerful than all of them.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You don't know what the punch does or doesn't do to the ground. You don't know what the jump does to the ground. All we know is that we see him clearly punch the ground and in the next panel, he is in the air. Then the next panel shows the planet crumbling beneath him.

There is a bit of ambiguity here. Clearly, the punch has significance. Otherwise, it would not have been included. So if the jump is significant to the planet's destruction, it is the jump on top of the punch that destroys it.

Also, in the real world, the force exerted against a surface that you are jumping off of is greater than the force exerted against that surface by a punch.

So no, it was just the jump.

I don't think it's even a punch per se. He's dropping into a 3-point crouch before he leaps, and the ultra-gravity adds to the impact as he plants his hand.

Diesldude... you do not know how those Supermen died. They could've been killed. Looking the way their body was, I'm sure that was the case. Remember, he told Superman that if he kept fighting, he was going to kill him. Maybe, just maybe those Supermen kept going for the punches and died.

Nope. You're reaching

The WF isn't trying to kill Superman. If he doesn't he wont get the league's support. Instead, he is trying to keep him a prisoner there. If Superman attempts to leave the prison by reach to the star, he will die. Eventually, he loses all his power and starves outs.

This is explained. My 5 year old cousin understood it....

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Nope. You're reaching

The WF isn't trying to kill Superman. If he doesn't he wont get the league's support. Instead, he is trying to keep him a prisoner there. If Superman attempts to leave the prison by reach to the star, he will die. Eventually, he loses all his power and starves outs.

This is explained. My 5 year old cousin understood it....

And again, he threatened Superman and told him that he would kill him "if he kept fighting". Not if he left. It doesnt matter if he was serious or not, the threat was said. My point had nothing to do with Superman trying to leave, I clearly said we do not know how the Supermen died.