Star Wars vs. Dceu

Started by Josh_Alexander6 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Films only for both. You conceded. You do not grasp much.

It seems to me you don't understand the meaning of Canon.

If you state the Star Wars verse you are referring to everything that is Canon to the movies.

Next time you should say in-films material only.

Either way the MCU (without IG or Dormammu) is just too weak to face the full might of the Star wars verse.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
It seems to me you don't understand the meaning of Canon.

If you state the Star Wars verse you are referring to everything that is Canon to the movies.

Next time you should say in-films material only.

Either way the MCU (without IG or Dormammu) is just too weak to face the full might of the Star wars verse.

Films only. I am ignoring canon for the MCU as well. You want to eliminate beings and weapons while you get all yours. Very telling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Films only. I am ignoring canon for the MCU as well. You want to eliminate beings and weapons while you get all yours. Very telling.

I never said for you to ignore canon.

Except for universal weapons like the IS and super OP characters like Dormammu.

Besides isn't like I was gonna bring any super being either.

I was just gonna use them to quantify numbers.

But don't worry I know it's insane to try comparing the MCU standards with the Star Wars standards.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said for you to ignore canon.

Except for universal weapons like the IS and super OP characters like Dormammu.

Besides isn't like I was gonna bring any super being either.

I was just gonna use them to quantify numbers.

But don't worry I know it's insane to try comparing the MCU standards with the Star Wars standards.

You can use any evidence corroborated in the films from the filmmakers.

MCU dominates SW verse. It’s not even a question.

No, it doesn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can use any evidence corroborated in the films from the filmmakers.

Great, that means I can use all material Disney has validated or canon material.

I won't bring other characters but will use it to quantify the various factions and their weaponry.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No, it doesn't.
Based on?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Great, that means I can use all material Disney has validated or canon material.

I won't bring other characters but will use it to quantify the various factions and their weaponry.

No, just as I cannot. Films only minus ig and Dormammu.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, just as I cannot. Films only minus ig and Dormammu.

Disney owns the right to the movies and decides what's canon and what's not.

I don't see the issue here.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Disney owns the right to the movies and decides what's canon and what's not.

I don't see the issue here.

Not questioning that but if you cannot agree to the stips you backed out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not questioning that but if you cannot agree to the stips you backed out.

Then that means I will have to infer the numbers.

Again, I was gonna use canon to bring official numbers to the table.

But I have no problem giving a guess on how many weapons galactic armies would have.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Then that means I will have to infer the numbers.

Again, I was gonna use canon to bring official numbers to the table.

But I have no problem giving a guess on how many weapons galactic armies would have.

If it is film based on or off screen by the filmmakers it is fair game.

Fine, I will publish the numbers here and if you agree then we'll do this.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fine, I will publish the numbers here and if you agree then we'll do this.
Cite your source. This will be an enormous undertaking if I am going to rep all of the MCU save the ig and Dormammu.

Star Wars Galaxy:

- Size: Similar to the Milky Way
- Habitable planets/systems: Millions

Republic Armada:

Considerations: Controls more than half of the galaxy by the time of the Clone Wars. This means that it has under it's protection millions of systems and was to guard them against the Federation.

Infantry: 1 Billion clone troopers
Tanks (AT-TEs): 10 million
Special vehicles: 5 million (Artillery weaponry, AT SPs, etc.)

Star Ships (Venator class): 100,000 (consider that we saw thousands of them fighting over Curuscant).

Fighters: 200 million (A single Venator class could carry hundreds of ships).
Special aircraft: 100M

Federation:

Considerations: The Federation armies always outnumbered the Republic's as seen in the battle of Geonosis and Naboo.

Infantry:
- 10Billion common droids
- 10 Billion droids from various kinds.

Tanks: 25 million tanks
Special vehicles: 15million

Star Ships:
- 100,000 Providence class destroyers
- 50,000 Lukerhunk class destroyers

Fighters: 800 million
Special aircraft: 400 million

Empire

Considerations: No more clones in this era and less but better troops/weaponry.

Troopers: 100 Million
Tanks (AT AT's): 1M
Special vehicles: 500K

Star Destroyers (Imperial II class destroyers): 50,000
Dreadnoughts (Executor Class): 10

Fighters: 100 million
Other types: 150 million

Super Weapons: 2

First Order:

Considerations: Significantly smaller than the Empire

Troops: 5Million
Tanks (AT M6): 100,000
Special weapons: 5 siege canons (There were said to be more inside the Supremacy)

Star Destroyers (Resurgent Class): 1000
Dreadnoughts: 1
Mega Star Destroyer: 1

Fighters: 10Million

Super Weapons: 1

Where are the links for your citations?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Where are the links for your citations?

You said I could infer, since you didn't allow me to bring canon material to the subject.

The Republic had control over millions of worlds, so assuming there are 1000 clones in each, we are talking about 1Billion easily.

So, I just parted from that and infered for the other classes.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You said I could infer, since you didn't allow me to bring canon material to the subject.

The Republic had control over millions of worlds, so assuming there are 1000 clones in each, we are talking about 1Billion easily.

So, I just parted from that and infered for the other classes.

You have to include a movie or movie related source. Cite it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to include a movie or movie related source. Cite it.

Lol, I don't need to cite something that is SW common knowledge.