Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
if this is hal spectre at his best.he stompsevery single one of the ivory kings was killed by a blast that wasnt even close to multiversal.hal spectre was completely multiversal.
ivory kings are some of the most overrated nothings ive ever seen
The bomb destroys nearly all of the remaining hundreds of thousands of universes. How is that not multiversal? Plus, it is a bomb created by the Beyonders using their own power.
Spectre is defeated by mages.
Originally posted by TheHulksterthe bomb was not multiverse level.
The bomb destroys nearly all of the remaining hundreds of thousands of universes. How is that not multiversal? Plus, it is a bomb created by the Beyonders using their own power.
the multiverse is INFINITE universes. the bomb only destroyed hundreds of thousands of universes. if i need to explain why destroying thousands of universes isnt the same as destroying an infinity of universes then youre worse off then i thought.
the fully multiversal spectre could annihilate every single ivory king easily.they are nothing but inconsistency
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
the bomb was not multiverse level.the multiverse is INFINITE universes. the bomb only destroyed hundreds of thousands of universes. if i need to explain why destroying thousands of universes isnt the same as destroying an infinity of universes then youre worse off then i thought.
the fully multiversal spectre could annihilate every single ivory king easily.they are nothing but inconsistency
So during new 52, the DCU isn’t a multiverse since it only has 52?
The MU had been reduced to hundreds of thousands at the time. That’s all that was there. The bomb destroys almost all of those as a biproduct of being detonated within the the Beyonder realm. The effect on the multiverse is not a measure of what is unleashed on the Beyonders. The battle with the cosmics doesn’t destroy any universes.
You have to put your extreme bias to the side and understand what is going on.
The bomb was detonated outside the Beyond Realm,
and this is the only reason it affected the BeyonderS.
Aside from the fact that the bombs were made out of their own power. (plot)
The bombs affected them outside the Beyond Realm
because outside, the BeyonderS are forced to employ physical m-bodies:
Making them vulnerable.
Inside the Beyond Realm, the BeyonderS were invulnerable formless sentient energy.
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Imo, the Beyonder that easily wtfstomped Thor & Hyperion,
and his friend the other Beyonder that did literally nothing, just stand there.
Were not as powerful as the ones that stomped the hierarchy.
They might've even been the same BeyonderS, but like Ex-Nihilii pointed out:
"They can change"
"Take new forms" ........ "Become something different"
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Yes, they were "adults" ... even though the "child-unit" stomped the universe and killed Death,
somehow these puny heroes with their planetary explosion
can kill an "adult," when the "child" is universal. 😂
Or, sensibly so, these "adults" manifested in weaker m-bodies,
cause as noted, ... "they can change ... take new forms ... become something different"
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just imo!
Originally posted by TheHulksteryou dont get it. in this series the destruction caused by the bomb was most definitely used as a measuring stick for its total power. thats why so much emphases was place on how much destruction it caused
The MU had been reduced to hundreds of thousands at the time. That's all that was there. The bomb destroys almost all of those as a biproduct of being detonated within the the Beyonder realm. The effect on the multiverse is not a measure of what is unleashed on the Beyonders. The battle with the cosmics doesn't destroy any universes.You have to put your extreme bias to the side and understand what is going on.
there were hundreds of thousands of universes in the multiverse at the time. after the bomb went off there were about TWO DOZEN left.
so the bombs destructive power is obviously capped at hundreds of thousands of universes otherwise it would have destroyed ALL the remaining universes.
so if marvels multiverse had 212,000 universes left, the bomb only had enough power to destroy like 200,000 of them., that was its max output.period
a fully multiverse level blast would have to have enough power destroy INFINITE universes at once because thats what the multiverse is. this blast was capped at hundreds of thousands of universes. still a big boom but waaaay below multiverse level- and it killed off the entire civilization of ivory kings lmao.
theyre overrated nothings. peak hal spectre slaughters them easy
Hal Spectre at his peak with logoz was beyond Ivory Kings
He one shotted jokerized zero hour parallax
Logoz was basically like dc version of HOTU, it's fragment of God's power, most powerful energy in all the universes
ya according to hank pym (who even said he couldnt comprehend the battle) lt was killed by 3 ivory kings.
.....then starbrand and exnihilo killed a few ivory kings. then thor and hyperion raped droves of ivory kings before falling. then a blast waaaay below multiverse level killed the entire ****ing civilization of ivory kings in one go.lmao
the people pretending like the ivory kings have nothing but high feats are delusional.these things were pathetic in the end
Originally posted by MrMind
glad you agree
Originally posted by
starbrand and exnihilo killed a few ivory kings.
Only one Beyonder was killed. The one that the Starbrand exploded.
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Ex nihilii, Abyss and the Gardners in unison, were able to warp the non-reactive Beyonder ...
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Ex nihilii, Abyss and the Gardners vs a Beyonder that does literally NOTHING!
Good thing for them, their oppenent never attacked or defended itself. 👆
Originally posted by
then thor and hyperion raped droves of ivory kings before falling.
At best, they insignificantly damaged the shells of the first few BeyonderS coming at them,
they were then overwhelmed in an obvious overkill injection by Hickman
to make the scene dramatic and heroic.
... "insignificantly" ... because the single Beyonder that whooped their assess
reformed effortlessly after Thor smashed his vulnerable facial shell.
ONE Beyonder vs Thor and Hyperion
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And yet, we're to believe they "raped droves of BeyonderS" after this?
In the condition they're in?
When at optimal conditions together they couldn't handle ONE Beyonder?
lmao
Originally posted by
then a blast waaaay below multiverse level killed the entire ****ing civilization of ivory kings in one go
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
ya according to hank pym (who even said he couldnt comprehend the battle) lt was killed by 3 ivory kings......then starbrand and exnihilo killed a few ivory kings. then thor and hyperion raped droves of ivory kings before falling. then a blast waaaay below multiverse level killed the entire ****ing civilization of ivory kings in one go.lmao
the people pretending like the ivory kings have nothing but high feats are delusional.these things were pathetic in the end
You pretend that the OP specifies “peak Spectre”.
Anyhow, the number of universes that died corresponds with the number of Molecule Men killed. That’s the way it is programmed. 616 and a couple of dozen Molecule Men are not included in the bomb, thus those realities don’t die. It’s not about the bomb’s strength with regard to universes dying. The bomb is set off within the doorway of the Beyonder’s reality. It’s their own power unleashed against them.
When Owen posses a good chunk of Beyonder power, he is capable of blinking Galactus out of existence and keeping an omniverse in a box. Spectre is abused by Emperoepr Joker, hemmed up by Mages, hurt by the Bat Kick, etc.
Originally posted by Hulkieno. i said IF this is peak hal spectre he slaughters, which he does. learn to read
You pretend that the OP specifies "peak Spectre".Anyhow, the number of universes that died corresponds with the number of Molecule Men killed. That's the way it is programmed. 616 and a couple of dozen Molecule Men are not included in the bomb, thus those realities don’t die. It's not about the bomb's strength with regard to universes dying. The bomb is set off within the doorway of the Beyonder's reality. It’s their own power unleashed against them.
no. you originally tried to say that the bomb that killed every single ivory king was fully multiversal. it clearly was not because a blast that is capped at destroying hundreds of thousands of universes obviously cannot destroy infinite universes- and only if the latter happened would the blast have actually been multiverse level.
stop trying to move the goals like a troll.