Gun registry

Started by mike brown4 pages

Gun registry

So gun control is a hot topic cause of all the craziness and random shootings and I don't honestly see a pragmatic solution to the random mass shootings etc.

But the funny thing is, the gun control debate pretty much revolves around these random acts of violence. Whenever one occurs, it's only a matter of nano seconds before someone utters the question "is it time to talk about gun control yet?"

Meanwhile these shootings make up a tiny, almost invisible minority of the shootings in this country. And at the same time, ordinary gang killings and things of this nature has happen every single day. Our homicide rates are way higher than the rest if the industrialized world for this reason alone. 500-600 murders a year happen in the city of Chicago for this reason alone.

Here is where the pro gun people will say it's cause Chicago banned guns. This is selective reasoning at it's best, since 2 decades ago new York had around 2000 murders a year and now it's down to 400-500, and if anything NY has become more strict on guns during that time.

So this leads me to what I think is really one of the core issues: illegal guns.

Many guns that are originally sold on the market as legal guns are leaked on to the black market for the benefit of seasoned killers. Some are stolen... But many more are bought in straw purchases for the expressed propose of leaking them onto the black market.

I feel a sort of gun registry is the best defense against this sort of criminal behavior. Especially if you made it so anyone who bought a gun had to register it every few years ( physically proving their possession of the gun) as well as making it mandatory to report if the gun changes ownership through sale, theft, etc. This would make gun owners more accountable for their weapons and make it harder to leak legal guns onto the black market.

yes

Ima go with no, just for the sake of the fact that it defeats one of the reasons for the second amendment. If the government suddenly decided to confiscate guns or confiscate all semi-automatics, I certainly wouldn't want to make their job their easier by allowing them to track them all down.

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ima go with no, just for the sake of the fact that it defeats one of the reasons for the second amendment. If the government suddenly decided to confiscate guns or confiscate all semi-automatics, I certainly wouldn't want to make their job their easier by allowing them to track them all down.

Agreed. 👆

All of the biggest mass murderers in history (Stalin, Mao, Hitler) first required the citizens to register their firearms; then they confiscated them; and then they slaughtered their defenseless citizens in cold blood.

The biggest mass murderers in history all agree: gun control works!! I have a t-shirt with those exact words on it with a picture of the big 3 mass murderers I mentioned above. Nice-looking shirt I bought from Alex Jones's "Infowars" website store along with several other nice-looking shirts. Just doing my part to help Alex in his fight against the globalist scum and leftist MSM liars. The fact that he is also someone who triggers the hell out of leftist snowflakes is just a nice bonus for helping to fund his operation lol.

Here's the shirt I was referring to:

https://www.infowarsstore.com/gear/apparel/mass-murderers-agree-gun-control-works-t-shirt.html

Funny how "Modern Society" likes to Blame the Guns Ability and Avalibility for the things that happen today....when it can really be placed on the Society itself....seeing as how the "Modern Society" just keeps getting more and more Secular....aka PROGRESSIVE!

Funny that.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Agreed. 👆

All of the biggest mass murderers in history (Stalin, Mao, Hitler) first required the citizens to register their firearms; then they confiscated them; and then they slaughtered their defenseless citizens in cold blood.

The biggest mass murderers in history all agree: gun control works!! I have a t-shirt with those exact words on it with a picture of the big 3 mass murderers I mentioned above. Nice-looking shirt I bought from Alex Jones's "Infowars" website store along with several other nice-looking shirts. Just doing my part to help Alex in his fight against the globalist scum and leftist MSM liars. The fact that he is also someone who triggers the hell out of leftist snowflakes is just a nice bonus for helping to fund his operation lol.

Here's the shirt I was referring to:

https://www.infowarsstore.com/gear/apparel/mass-murderers-agree-gun-control-works-t-shirt.html


*points to Switzerland*

Even better: remove all gun control laws. Even allow people to have fully automatic machine guns (not submachine guns, the big boys).

Leave it that way for 2 years. See what changes on homicide (not gun homicide) rates.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ima go with no, just for the sake of the fact that it defeats one of the reasons for the second amendment. If the government suddenly decided to confiscate guns or confiscate all semi-automatics, I certainly wouldn't want to make their job their easier by allowing them to track them all down.

Bingo.

Originally posted by TempAccount
*points to Switzerland*

Yeah, but in Switzerland, if I'm not mistaken, all the men are actually required to own a firearm aren't they and even carry around with them for the nation's defense? It's not the same situation as the the 3 biggest mass murderers in history having an intent to confiscate all the guns after forcing people to register them.

Re: Gun registry

Originally posted by mike brown
I feel a sort of gun registry is the best defense against this sort of criminal behavior. Especially if you made it so anyone who bought a gun had to register it every few years ( physically proving their possession of the gun) as well as making it mandatory to report if the gun changes ownership through sale, theft, etc. This would make gun owners more accountable for their weapons and make it harder to leak legal guns onto the black market.

Bingo. People have to show greater responsibility with their cars.

But make an exemption that any single-shot gun of .22 caliber (or smaller) is exempt, that way we're not interfering with the 2nd Amendment.

Car isn't a right. Next.

^ Thinks he countered something. Lolz.

Why I left an exemption.

He did counter it lol.

Yeah except Im not particularly worried about the government trying to confiscate a ton of people's cars.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah except Im not particularly worried about the government trying to confiscate a ton of people's cars.

Also I'm confused why a gun registry is good but it's bad to look at the social media accounts of people who wanna come here lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Car isn't a right. Next.

Oh, damn! I didn't think about that...

Yeah, having cars or the equivalent of those in the US Constitution (buggies) is not a right.

But why? Instead of arguing semantics like this, let's operate in the spirit of those laws.

Does Robtard have a good point about licensing? Gun Licensing is more important or less important than car insurance and licensing?

I think anonymity from the government when it comes to firearms is more important than that of cars.

Yet in order to get a gun here I will have to go through like 12-16 hours of training by a licensed officer. They don't just do a background check and hand you a license for a firearm here.

In the end I'd say no: no point is good enough to justify gun registry as long as owning guns remains a right.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Does Robtard have a good point about licensing? Gun Licensing is more important or less important than car insurance and licensing?

To get a drivers license you basically take a 6-month course when you are 15 and never have to take another course or test again as long as you renew your license before expiration.

How can we compare this with getting/owning a gun, make gun owners buy firearm insurance to even the score?

Originally posted by snowdragon
To get a drivers license you basically take a 6-month course when you are 15 and never have to take another course or test again as long as you renew your license before expiration.

How can we compare this with getting/owning a gun, make gun owners buy firearm insurance to even the score?

There's basic eye exams in between for driver's licence renewals. Maybe it's different in your state?

Cars (at least in Ca) have to be registered every year and they have to pass a smog check ever other year to see if they're operating correctly. You have to have year-round insurances to register your car every year.

Commercial Vehicles have the above and they have to pass regular inspection checks.