Gun registry

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm still wondering why gun registry is good, but it's bad to ask to see the social media accounts of people who wanna come here?

Beginning to think I'm not gonna get an answer from even a single person who is in favor of this registry, but decried the move to check the social media accounts of people who aren't even Americans.

Just make it so guns shoot starbursts instead of bullets.

That would only increase the US' obesity rate.

Starbursts have some pretty sharp edges and are quite hard.

...so yeah. I bet you could take out a whole bunch of Snowflakes with a SB 47.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ima go with no, just for the sake of the fact that it defeats one of the reasons for the second amendment. If the government suddenly decided to confiscate guns or confiscate all semi-automatics, I certainly wouldn't want to make their job their easier by allowing them to track them all down.

The point about Germany in the Nazi era is interesting since the Nazis basically grew to prominence as a paramilitary group which formed the SA. Essentially, the very kind of well regulated militia that is supposed to protect us from such a tyranny. So there's some irony in that.

The fact is.. if a government turns tyrannical and decided to confiscate all guns, finding the guns would only be step one. There has never been a country as big, heavily populated and armed to the teeth as the United States. So disarming the populace would most likely be a cluster**** of a civil war, a Syria on steroids, and I severely doubt that there is a serious threat of this scenario. So I guess I find it less than satisfying that we're giving carte blanche to criminals to am themselves to the teeth anonymously in order to prevent a far fetched hypothetical gun seizing dystopia.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Let's compromise, what are the pro-registry people willing to put on the table to convince the anti-registry side to agree?

Also antiques should be exempt. And I would be fine with not charging the gun owner any money to register guns... The point of the policy is just to try to cut down on the illegal gun market, not penalize gun owners arbitrarily.

Also I'm not proposing banning any type of gun
I don't care if it's a machine gun as long as the damn thing is registered and doesn't fall into criminal hands.

Originally posted by mike brown
I'm willing to make an exception for certain guns that are unlikely to be used in crimes.... Like certain types of hunting rifles.

Also antiques should be exempt. And I would be fine with not charging the gun owner any money to register guns... The point of the policy is just to try to cut down on the illegal gun market, not penalize gun owners arbitrarily.

Also I'm not proposing banning any type of gun
I don't care if it's a machine gun as long as the damn thing is registered and doesn't fall into criminal hands.

You do know most crimes uses handguns right?

Originally posted by mike brown
I'm willing to make an exception for certain guns that are unlikely to be used in crimes.... Like certain types of hunting rifles.

Also antiques should be exempt. And I would be fine with not charging the gun owner any money to register guns... The point of the policy is just to try to cut down on the illegal gun market, not penalize gun owners arbitrarily.

Also I'm not proposing banning any type of gun
I don't care if it's a machine gun as long as the damn thing is registered and doesn't fall into criminal hands.

I'm not seeing any compromises here, just things that you want. what do the gun owners get for agreeing to a registry?

Their guns taken away from them...and it would be fun to see them TRY to take them.

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know most crimes uses handguns right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not seeing any compromises here, just things that you want. what do the gun owners get for agreeing to a registry?

The bottom line is the purpose of the policy is to cut down on the illegal gun market which is allowed to thrive primarily by straw purchases of guns on the legal market. This policy aims to make it harder to do that. I would think the fact that people are being shot daily by illegal guns which the cops can't usually trace should be incentive enough to put up with the mold inconvenience of registering weapons. If not then we just don't see eye to eye and there's nothing that I could offer that would satisfy you that wouldn't also render the policy inept at accomplishing the desired goal.

The point of the question is to see what is the most you'd be willing to offer in order to have the registry.

I'm basically asking what people's opinions are dude. This isn't a real negotiation ffs. If you don't want a registry then basically you can use this thread to explain why you don't think it's a good idea.

Like I said I don't know what you mean. Can you give me an example of something I could offer that would make it more appealing to you?

Whether it's a good idea or not doesn't matter if it never gets instituted.

Well if we can agree it's a good idea then I would think we would have a common interest in instituting it, rather than you trying to shake me down for something to get it implemented. This is a bizarre dispute tbh. Do you just not care about criminals having easy access to illegal and untraceable guns?

When did you stop beating your kids?

https://time.com/4100408/a-criminologists-case-against-gun-control/

Don't have a gun register. Let people buy all the guns they want.

Have them register ammunition instead. Have traceability codes on every round and every box so they can be linked back to the retailer and purchaser.

2nd Amendment upheld. Perpetrators more easily traced.

Wouldn't work, making bullets is easy.