multiversal punch vs Marvel cosmic beings

Started by Philosophía6 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I'll be watching this closely, because I quickly see it devolving into more Superman-related butthurt/stupidity.
Galan the hopeful.

For the record, I'm not butthurt over the punch. I just never read anything in the comic making mention to his punch being a multiversal destructive force. If it was, Forger should have been obliterated. He wasn't. The Justice League would have been obliterated. They weren't. Standing in a neutral position of judgement, I did not see any proof of this being what everyone seems to be claiming. In fact the punch from my perspective wasn't even planetary in destructive force. What I do see are those that have made the claim attempting to incite anger in others, as if they were little children throwing around the butthurt term as a form of insult. Hope you're picking up on this negative behavior Galan? I believe that the punch was great, but it's being inflated to ridiculous proportions by baseless claims, and it almost seems as if the claimants read an entirely different book than I did.

You make it sound as if it all came down to the collateral damage

....guys.... the purpose of this was to see who can tank the punch regardless of any dispute over it. There’s a reason why I said multiversal punch

Yeah, how much destruction was there when the Beyonders killed Living Tribunal?

Originally posted by Stoic
For the record, I'm not butthurt over the punch. I just never read anything in the comic making mention to his punch being a multiversal destructive force. If it was, Forger should have been obliterated. He wasn't. The Justice League would have been obliterated. They weren't. Standing in a neutral position of judgement, I did not see any proof of this being what everyone seems to be claiming. In fact the punch from my perspective wasn't even planetary in destructive force. What I do see are those that have made the claim attempting to incite anger in others, as if they were little children throwing around the butthurt term as a form of insult. Hope you're picking up on this negative behavior Galan? I believe that the punch was great, but it's being inflated to ridiculous proportions by baseless claims, and it almost seems as if the claimants read an entirely different book than I did.
hey man that butthurt term was thrown before you even posted in this thread. WF said Superman destroyed it, we have pictures showing it was destroyed and just as importantly, where did it go if it wasn’t destroyed?

But that is not the issue.

We also have the OP himself coming in and clarifying it's a multiversal punch, but not who's giving it. So if it helps people, imagine it's your favorite character doing it. TOAA, The Presence, Marty McFly, whatever.

Jeez Louise, lmao.

Originally posted by Bentley
You make it sound as if it all came down to the collateral damage
exactly, perfect example of why you can’t go by collateral damage. Superman going as fast as light, obliterated the shadow moon but here he’s amped and going thousands of times faster and only creates a continent wide crater?

My theory is that superman’s Punch isn’t Omnidirectional the entire force and strength of the punch was directed down at WF and the anvil and the Multiverse. That force went through WF, anvil multiverse and still had enough destructive power to destroy a continent size portion of the planet.
Now if people want to bring up the justice league being still alive, should they have tanked a continent busting attack? No but the writer isn’t going to have Superman kill his teammates, not with a city busting, continent busting or even a multiverse busting attack.

Just like WBH isn't going to destroy his own pants 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that is not the issue.

We also have the OP himself coming in and clarifying it's a multiversal punch, but not who's giving it. So if it helps people, imagine it's your favorite character doing it. TOAA, The Presence, Marty McFly, whatever.

Jeez Louise, lmao.

it’s obvious you know what he intended. LMAO.

I wish he had Hulk throwing that punch then we’d get legit answers from the marvel crew.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just like WBH isn't going to destroy his own pants 👆
👆 yup.

Okay. DC Earth is currently changed. The World Forger is now a member of the Justice League. He was the one to take this so called Multiversal punch to the face, which would make him a Multiverse level threat. The Justice League now needs even more power to stop what Luthor has set into play, and they have the World Forger on their team. Is the Legion of Doom also a Multiversal threat since they need more than a guy that can destroy a Multiverse with a punch and another that can survive being hit by that punch? Seems like a stretch. I'm not buying it, but please do call me butthurt because I never once read or saw what is being claimed.

The Beyonders unlike Superman operate on levels above the physical. If it was somehow stated that Superman errected a forcefield that enabled him to only hit the World Forger and damage only the spot that he stood at, I might be able to buy it, but then you have all of these other strings hanging out that brings up more doubt. The Legion of Doom is one of them. In my unbiased opinion, calling the punch Multiversal in scope in terms of power, has yet to be proven. I simply did not see anything other than a punch that Mongul would have likely survived. Sorry, which is why I re-read it, and then asked Leo to tell me if I'd missed something? Hulkster seems to have read the same book that I did.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Meanwhile, Surfer is dying from a black hole that Cosmo and the Starjammers are chilling out in, and nobody questions the properties of said black hole.[/B]

The script indicates that they are being torn apart. Surfer ejects them from it before they die. Surfer remains in it and never dies.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The script indicates that they are being torn apart. Surfer ejects them from it before they die. Surfer remains in it and never dies.

He was also using the PC to keep them alive long enough for him to get them out.

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay. DC Earth is currently changed. The World Forger is now a member of the Justice League. He was the one to take this so called Multiversal punch to the face, which would make him a Multiverse level threat. The Justice League now needs even more power to stop what Luthor has set into play, and they have the World Forger on their team. Is the Legion of Doom also a Multiversal threat since they need more than a guy that can destroy a Multiverse with a punch and another that can survive being hit by that punch? Seems like a stretch. I'm not buying it, but please do call me butthurt because I never once read or saw what is being claimed.

The Beyonders unlike Superman operate on levels above the physical. If it was somehow stated that Superman errected a forcefield that enabled him to only hit the World Forger and damage only the spot that he stood at, I might be able to buy it, but then you have all of these other strings hanging out that brings up more doubt. The Legion of Doom is one of them. In my unbiased opinion, calling the punch Multiversal in scope in terms of power, has yet to be proven. I simply did not see anything other than a punch that Mongul would have likely survived. Sorry, which is why I re-read it, and then asked Leo to tell me if I'd missed something? Hulkster seems to have read the same book that I did.

The threat isn’t Luthor, it’s perpetua.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Beyonders unlike Superman operate on levels above the physical.
tell that to thor and hyperion, who were raping them in droves. physically.

😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Meanwhile, Surfer is dying from a black hole that Cosmo and the Starjammers are chilling out in, and nobody questions the properties of said black hole.[/B]

The script indicates that they are being torn apart. Surfer ejects them from it before they die. Surfer remains in it and never dies.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
tell that to thor and hyperion, who were raping them in droves. physically.

😂

Thor and Hype are apparently multiversal.

Originally posted by Stoic
He was also using the PC to keep them alive long enough for him to get them out.

Yep.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Yep.

That was after he went for them. Previously they were on their own when Surfer was helping BRB.