multiversal punch vs Marvel cosmic beings

Started by DarkSaint856 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay. DC Earth is currently changed. The World Forger is now a member of the Justice League. He was the one to take this so called Multiversal punch to the face, which would make him a Multiverse level threat. The Justice League now needs even more power to stop what Luthor has set into play, and they have the World Forger on their team. Is the Legion of Doom also a Multiversal threat since they need more than a guy that can destroy a Multiverse with a punch and another that can survive being hit by that punch? Seems like a stretch. I'm not buying it, but please do call me butthurt because I never once read or saw what is being claimed.

The Beyonders unlike Superman operate on levels above the physical. If it was somehow stated that Superman errected a forcefield that enabled him to only hit the World Forger and damage only the spot that he stood at, I might be able to buy it, but then you have all of these other strings hanging out that brings up more doubt. The Legion of Doom is one of them. In my unbiased opinion, calling the punch Multiversal in scope in terms of power, has yet to be proven. I simply did not see anything other than a punch that Mongul would have likely survived. Sorry, which is why I re-read it, and then asked Leo to tell me if I'd missed something? Hulkster seems to have read the same book that I did.

You missed World Forger altering his own DNA when he doing the JL.

But that's by the by. OP wants who can tank A multiversal punch

Originally posted by Stoic
Did you read the comic?

Yes, I have read enough comics to know which beings on the list are above multiversal:
- pre-retcon Beyonder who, by definition, comes from beyond the multiverse
- full-status Living Tribunal who exists outside of the multiverse, from where he judges everything.

And that's it; everyone else on the list will succumb to a multiversal punch.

Originally posted by Stoic
He was also using the PC to keep them alive long enough for him to get them out.

Really?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The script indicates that they are being torn apart. Surfer ejects them from it before they die. Surfer remains in it and never dies.

Oh?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except we see the same energy around Stormbreaker.

Was he controlling Stormbreaker too?

Where is that energy here:

He only used his energy to gather them together. Not to protect them.

Edit: as I said. Insane feat for all.

Where is he using any PC here? They're all floating about.

Unless your assertions are that a dog in a spacesuit and a guy with a 70s porn-stache are able to float about inside a black hole until Surfer decides he needs to save them? How long is that, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 2 minutes?

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
tell that to thor and hyperion, who were raping them in droves. physically.

😂

Except they weren't.

Originally posted by Diesldude
The threat isn’t Luthor, it’s perpetua.

Okay that's one that I missed. Perpetua now resides within Luthor. It still does not explain how and why people called the punch Multiversal in scope. The World Forger is not Multiversal, because if he were his brothers would be as well, and yet combined they are only able to hold their mother Perpetua at bay. Can you show me where or direct me to where it states that the punch was Multiversal? I'm more than willing to read it. However, at this time I think that you're perspective of the event is far different than many others including my own, and I didn't for a moment become butthurt over reading and perceiving what I felt was an awesome punch, even though I never saw it as grand as what you took from it.

what i got from that scan is further confirmation that surfer is in fact dickless👆

but hes obviously using "invisible" power cosmic there. thats probably the next stupidity theyll regurgitate.

Originally posted by Stoic
Except they weren't.
oh they definitely were. reread the issue its clear as day🙂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Really?

Oh?

Where is he using any PC here? They're all floating about.

Unless your assertions are that a dog in a spacesuit and a guy with a 70s porn-stache are able to float about inside a black hole until Surfer decides he needs to save them? How long is that, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 2 minutes?

It was confirmed again that it was indeed a black hole.

Can someone post scans of Thor raping a Beyonder and even if that was true, why would that not be a high showing for Thor like the World Forger showing was a high showing for a specific character. If Supes would've punched Mxy to death, I wonder how the forum would react.

Originally posted by Stoic
Except they weren't.

Okay that's one that I missed. Perpetua now resides within Luthor. It still does not explain how and why people called the punch Multiversal in scope. The World Forger is not Multiversal, because if he were his brothers would be as well, and yet combined they are only able to hold their mother Perpetua at bay. Can you show me where or direct me to where it states that the punch was Multiversal? I'm more than willing to read it. However, at this time I think that you're perspective of the event is far different than many others including my own, and I didn't for a moment become butthurt over reading and perceiving what I felt was an awesome punch, even though I never saw it as grand as what you took from it.

hey man it’s all in JL #21-25. If they are under Perpetua it doesn’t mean that they can’t be multiversal. It just means that She’s just at whole another level than her 3 sons.

^^ can’t edit my posts on my phone, wanted to add that Phil and Galan discussed this in another thread with scans and stuff.

Originally posted by carver9
It was confirmed again that it was indeed a black hole.

I still can't see where Surfer is using his energy to protect them. He's using his energy to gather them together later, yes, but he's not forming any shield around them.

I mean, he's not forming a shield around them in my scan, is he?

Originally posted by carver9
Can someone post scans of Thor raping a Beyonder.
Stilt should have fun with this lol.

Originally posted by Stoic
Except they weren't.

Okay that's one that I missed. Perpetua now resides within Luthor. It still does not explain how and why people called the punch Multiversal in scope. The World Forger is not Multiversal, because if he were his brothers would be as well, and yet combined they are only able to hold their mother Perpetua at bay. Can you show me where or direct me to where it states that the punch was Multiversal? I'm more than willing to read it. However, at this time I think that you're perspective of the event is far different than many others including my own, and I didn't for a moment become butthurt over reading and perceiving what I felt was an awesome punch, even though I never saw it as grand as what you took from it.

You also missed World Forger changing his DNA.

But by the by, if it helps you, imagine its the Hulk or TOAA doing the punching in this thread.

Originally posted by Diesldude
hey man it’s all in JL #21-25. If they are under Perpetua it doesn’t mean that they can’t be multiversal. It just means that She’s just at whole another level than her 3 sons.

Cool beans I'll check it out.

Originally posted by carver9
Can someone post scans of Thor raping a Beyonder and even if that was true, why would that not be a high showing for Thor like the World Forger showing was a high showing for a specific character. If Supes would've punched Mxy to death, I wonder how the forum would react.

yes they were beaten eventually but not before ripping several beyonders apart😂

Originally posted by Stoic
Cool beans I'll check it out.

I suggest you also read Silver Surfer: Black #1 👆

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

yes they were beaten eventually but not before ripping several beyonders apart😂

Beastly showing for Thor and Hype, right? Or is this a low showing for the Beyonder?

terrible showing for beyonders considering that thor and hyperion were tired and weak when they shredded the beyonders apart.

not similar to the superman feat at all if thats what youre getting at lol

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I still can't see where Surfer is using his energy to protect them. He's using his energy to gather them together later, yes, but he's not forming any shield around them.

I mean, he's not forming a shield around them in my scan, is he?

Carver, Hello!!

Originally posted by Stoic
Cool beans I'll check it out.
Can you tell me which issues Thanos is trying to usurp TOAA? Or something to that affect. Would love to read those comics, big fan of a marvel’s cosmic stories.