Young People are Becoming Less Comfortable with LGBTQ People GLAAD Finds

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Re: Young People are Becoming Less Comfortable with LGBTQ People GLAAD Finds

Originally posted by TempAccount

Perhaps people don't actually have an issue with what you do in your bedroom, but do get annoyed when it is constant flag-waving, pedophilia, and an overall intrusion into peoples' personal lives.

That's what I thought at first, but based on the article:

Participants were asked how they felt about seeing a same-sex couple hold hands, learning that a family member or a doctor identifies as LGBTQ and learning that their child has been placed in a class taught by an LGBTQ teacher, among other situations.

It sounds more like they're turned off by homosexuality in general.

I understand if the pride parade is a bit much for you but if people holding hands makes you uncomfortable you're just being prudish imo.

Originally posted by mike brown
That's what I thought at first, but based on the article:

It sounds more like they're turned off by homosexuality in general.

I understand if the pride parade is a bit much for you but if people holding hands makes you uncomfortable you're just being prudish imo.

If they are upset over what they see as an intrusion into their lives...well, wouldn't some of the shit cement that?

Seeing gays holding hands might feel like further intrusion. A gay teaching your kid in school might also feel that way, etc.

If you're a homophobe, then yes.

And if you're a racist then seeing an interracial couple or a black teacher might likewise make you uncomfortable.

Originally posted by mike brown
If you're a homophobe, then yes.

And if you're a racist then seeing an interracial couple or a black teacher might likewise make you uncomfortable.

Couldn't it all technically be described as homophobia? Even the "we feel like they are intruding" even without any of the other stuff?

So when you said "That's what I thought at first" did you mean you felt it was homophobia or that you thought there was some other cause?

I don't understand the question.

My point is that if you think they are "intruding" by living their lives by the same standards straight people do, then you're basically just being a bigot.

Originally posted by mike brown
I don't understand the question.

My point is that if you think they are "intruding" by living their lives by the same standards straight people do, then you're basically just being a bigot.

You responded to a comment about this possibly being cuz they don't like the intrusion and said "I thought that at first, but based on the article" and then provided the examples.

It comes off like you reached one conclusion first and then reached a different one.

Originally posted by mike brown
That's what I thought at first, but based on the article:

It sounds more like they're turned off by homosexuality in general.

I understand if the pride parade is a bit much for you but if people holding hands makes you uncomfortable you're just being prudish imo.

Which has nothing to do with LGBT tolerance. To believe every millennial sees sex as nothing is a big mistake, as many simply don't want to see two lovebirds carry on in front of them, Get a room.

Originally posted by mike brown
I don't understand the question.

My point is that if you think they are "intruding" by living their lives by the same standards straight people do, then you're basically just being a bigot.

Bingo

Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo

Do you have any theories as to why young people are apparently becoming less comfortable with lgbt people?

I've long found people who throw their sexuality in your face to be distasteful, whether gay, bi or straight. I get that it's important to people but don't demand it be important to me. I do understand the logic however of a long term closeted gay person becoming a bit more flamboyant/camp/extroverted upon coming out.

Originally posted by Surtur
Do you have any theories as to why young people are apparently becoming less comfortable with lgbt people?

I think the GLAAD study (the one sourced in the OP) covered it:

"The decline in acceptance and rise in discrimination found in the survey corresponded to an increase in hateful rhetoric in our culture" -snip

"We have taken that idea for granted and this year’s results show that the sharp and quick rise in divisive rhetoric in politics and culture is having a negative influence on younger Americans.There is a deep need for the understanding" -snip

Like I said before, hating on gay people isn't anything new, it' been happening in varying degrees for thousands of years across many cultures. You shit and demonize a minority enough in a given society and the pendulum swings towards hate.

Why do you think it is?

Originally posted by samhain
I've long found people who throw their sexuality in your face to be distasteful, whether gay, bi or straight. I get that it's important to people but don't demand it be important to me. I do understand the logic however of a long term closeted gay person becoming a bit more flamboyant/camp/extroverted upon coming out.

Do straight people throw their sexual preference at your face often?

I think the GLAAD study (the one sourced in the OP) covered it:

"The decline in acceptance and rise in discrimination found in the survey corresponded to an increase in hateful rhetoric in our culture" -snip

"We have taken that idea for granted and this year’s results show that the sharp and quick rise in divisive rhetoric in politics and culture is having a negative influence on younger Americans.There is a deep need for the understanding" -snip

Like I said before, hating on gay people isn't anything new, it' been happening in varying degrees for thousands of years across many cultures. You shit and demonize a minority enough in a given society and the pendulum swings towards hate.

Why do you think it is?

I think the answer lies more along these lines:

I've long found people who throw their sexuality in your face to be distasteful, whether gay, bi or straight. I get that it's important to people but don't demand it be important to me. I do understand the logic however of a long term closeted gay person becoming a bit more flamboyant/camp/extroverted upon coming out.
Originally posted by Bentley
Do straight people throw their sexual preference at your face often?

To be fair, how many of us like standing at the bus stop trying to look like we don't notice that of the two people sitting nearby, one is trying to to perform oral surgery on the other using only their tongue... Though I'm not sure if that's the same thing...

Originally posted by snowdragon
I think the answer lies more along these lines:

Then why isn't "straight acceptance" on the decline if it's all about "their sexuality is being pushed in our faces!?"

I see more hetero sexuality thrown in my face than anything homo and I live in the Bay Area. It's very common to see a man/woman couple holding hands, kissing, grabbing each other etc. Two men or two women, not so much, they tend to be far more reserved in public.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think the GLAAD study (the one sourced in the OP) covered it:

"The decline in acceptance and rise in discrimination found in the survey corresponded to an increase in hateful rhetoric in our culture" -snip

"We have taken that idea for granted and this year’s results show that the sharp and quick rise in divisive rhetoric in politics and culture is having a negative influence on younger Americans.There is a deep need for the understanding" -snip

Like I said before, hating on gay people isn't anything new, it' been happening in varying degrees for thousands of years across many cultures. You shit and demonize a minority enough in a given society and the pendulum swings towards hate.

Why do you think it is?

I don't know why, but am I to interpret this as you blaming Trump?

Originally posted by Robtard
Then why isn't "straight acceptance" on the decline if it's all about "their sexuality is being pushed in our faces!?"

I see more hetero sexuality thrown in my face than anything homo and I live in the Bay Area. It's very common to see a man/woman couple holding hands, kissing, grabbing each other etc. Two men or two women, not so much, they tend to be far more reserved in public.

Perhaps if there were a question in the poll are you put off by heterosexual PDA etc we could better answer that in relation to this poll.

Gallup and Pew results don't look alarming at all for 2018 and in general showed FAR greater acceptance then any time even just 10 years back.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/24/same-sex-marriage/

Originally posted by -Pr-
To be fair, how many of us like standing at the bus stop trying to look like we don't notice that of the two people sitting nearby, one is trying to to perform oral surgery on the other using only their tongue... Though I'm not sure if that's the same thing...
Very true tbh. Lots of people have given me dirty looks for that over the years. 😖hifty: 😉

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't know why, but am I to interpret this as you blaming Trump?

Very dishonest actor-y of you. You at least have an opinion of why.

To still answer your question despite you ducking out, Trump is part of the problem, not the problem. His hateful rhetoric and his low-keyed attacks on the LGBT community certainly fuel this. eg Rolling back regulations that protected LGBT people from being discriminated against when seeking healthcare services.

Though I will add I tend to believe rump's anti LGBT moves are probably not his babies, but from people like Pence and his former AG Sessions, he goes along though.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Perhaps if there were a question in the poll are you put off by heterosexual PDA etc we could better answer that in relation to this poll.

Gallup and Pew results don't look alarming at all for 2018 and in general showed FAR greater acceptance then any time even just 10 years back.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/24/same-sex-marriage/

People are not put off by a hetero couple expressing their love in public by and large because that's accepted as "normal".

Those polls have to do with equal rights, is that comparable with the GLAAD study?