Originally posted by h1a8
Yes, and more than a billion times more difficult.
It's impossible (not improbable) to do what DS did.
It's not impossible to do what the others did.No entity (even God) can send all those bullets through the same hole and with different guns at that distance.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
Yes? That's your answer? Yes?
Yes, shooting close range targets is harder than long range targets?
Yes, shooting at targets with no obstacles is harder than one with obstacles?
Did you even read my post at all?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes? That's your answer? Yes?Yes, shooting close range targets is harder than long range targets?
Yes, shooting at targets with no obstacles is harder than one with obstacles?Did you even read my post at all?
Bruh, didn't you read? Deadshot is so awesomesauce that the celestial being who created him and gave him his accuracy is completely incapable of replicating it or ever bestowing that ability to any other creation ever again. God basically used up all his accuracy juice on Floyd. 😄
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lets be realistic, none of them will miss. This is about who gets the jump on the others and thats basically it.
Yep, I feel the same, hence why I added some other elements, like cover, and started them in different positions. So, marksmanship still plays a big role, but other parts of their skill set will also factor into it. Because I feel like Deadshot and Bullseye are probably better with a gun than Clint, but Clint is better than them in other areas that could factor in.
To be fair to Dex, while he doesn't really have much in the way of stealth feats himself, he has been shown to be very good at keeping track of stealthy characters, like Daredevil.
And Matt is a guy who is routinely able to use a combination of his speed, agility, training and senses to sneak in and out of most places nearly at will, even with several people around.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Jesus...couldnt even make those shots lol.That was very impressive thanks!
Lets be realistic, none of them will miss. This is about who gets the jump on the others and thats basically it.
None of them will miss straight shots, that's why we need to look at their skills beyond that.
Dex is the only one who has feats of using guns against a decent opponent. In a warehouse setting with lots of obstacles you want to back someone who's proven to be able to shoot around obstacles with no prep involved. Again that's Dex.
Clint has the best pure h2h feat but since there will be lots of stuff lying around, Dex still has the very impressive feat of actually defeating DD in CQC. Neither Clint nor Floyd have any feat of actually defeating a high end fighter in cqc.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Cite your source.
The source is common sense.
No one has ever reported doing it (two back to back bullets through the same bullet hole). And humans have shot bullets at still targets significantly more than trillions of times. If the average groupings from the top handgun shooters are an inch apart the mathematically it can shown.
Note: We are talking about 2 bullets, not the amount DS actually shot. Considering the amount DS shot then the number is beyond your imagination.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes? That's your answer? Yes?Yes, shooting close range targets is harder than long range targets?
Yes, shooting at targets with no obstacles is harder than one with obstacles?Did you even read my post at all?
I guess you like to ignore the important part of shooting through the same hole. Let's ignore that and concentrate only on distance and obstacles.
It's impossible to do. The feats from the others are improbable, not impossible.
Again it's more than a billion times more difficult.
Use some common sense. In more than a quintillion tries, the best shooter in the world couldn't do what DS did.
And remember, DS can ricochet bullets too.
Originally posted by h1a8I guess you like to ignore the important part of shooting through the same hole. Let's ignore that and concentrate only on distance and obstacles.
It's impossible to do. The feats from the others are improbable, not impossible.
Again it's more than a billion times more difficult.Use some common sense. In more than a quintillion tries, the best shooter in the world couldn't do what DS did.
And remember, DS can ricochet bullets too.
Both of what DS and Dex did are impossible to replicate by humans. The difference is that DS did his feat in a controlled, non-stressful environment where he had a clear shot at the target whereas Dex did his feat against a moving target at a longer distance with multiple obstacles in the way.
Guess which one would be more applicable to the scenario at hand.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Both of what DS and Dex did are impossible to replicate by humans. The difference is that DS did his feat in a controlled, non-stressful environment where he had a clear shot at the target whereas Dex did his feat against a moving target at a longer distance with multiple obstacles in the way.Guess which one would be more applicable to the scenario at hand.
From an accuracy standpoint what Dex did wasn't impossible. It's just improbable. It can be replicated if the best humans were given under 1 million tries.
Originally posted by h1a8
From an accuracy standpoint what Dex did wasn't impossible. It's just improbable. It can be replicated if the best humans were given under 1 million tries.
No, it's impossible. Prove to me that a regular human being can accurately target something a few stories above them by ricocheting bullets from across the street.