Do you believe in UFO's

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Its odd that people who believe in intelligent life elsewhere are deemed as wacko, and the people who deem them as wacko are the ones who insist that earth is not the center of the universe.

I believe there is almost a 100% chance that there is other life and very likely intelligent life in our galaxy, let along our universe and I've never been called a "wacko" for it.

Now if I said alien life visited me and did an anal probe before dropping me off in the local Burger King parking lot, yeah, I can see some people calling me whacked.

Originally posted by Robtard
Disagreed, Alex Jones is a frothing idiot who says nonsense as a means to sell his Chinese made soy based "miracle" supplements.

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Like I said, individuals who know how to think for themselves will have no issue verifying what's reasonable and what is not.

I just checked out some of his supplements and they appear to be USA sourced for the most part. They're overpriced and can be sourced as their individual components for cheaper, but I guess that makes Jones a good businessman.

I also think the products contain a very very tiny amount of soy.

Is that how you're coping now after the "Soy Boy" nonsense blew up in your face long ago. "His products only have a little bit of soy!" Too funny.

I don't need to cope, but the stuff definitely ain't akin to a soy latte.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't need to cope, but the stuff definitely ain't akin to a soy latte.

I don't drink soy milk (not that there's something wrong with it), but you're going to get more soy over time taking daily soy-based "supplements" than the few ounces of soy in a mixed coffee drink.

Even if you're drinking the soy latte every day?

No, if you're doing that then the daily latte person would likely get more. They're still both "Soy Boys" though, taking in soy every damn day.

They're timeships. Those tiny-bodied, swell-headed Greys are our distant descendants, 750,000 years hence.

I think intelligent life exists out there. But the idea it’s visited earth requires more evidence imo

Originally posted by Robtard
I believe there is almost a 100% chance that there is other life and very likely intelligent life in our galaxy, let along our universe and I've never been called a "wacko" for it.

Now if I said alien life visited me and did an anal probe before dropping me off in the local Burger King parking lot, yeah, I can see some people calling me whacked.

Mostly because people generally fall back on statistics about planets that can hypothetically support life, also known as the goldilocks zone.

The trippy thing past that point though is we don't know the statistical likelihood of abiogenesis, the generation of life from nonliving matter. Our planet exists in the goldilocks zone, yet humanity has never witnessed it, and we have also never recreated it. So we have no idea what the likelihood is of life emerging on a planet that could support it.

Beyond that, we also don't know the likelihood of the survival of very basic life produced through the abiogenesis of the primordial soup. If abiogenesis is extremely extremely rare even within the goldilocks zone, how many times would it need to occur before the statistical likelihood of enough of this basic life surviving for it to actually live on and develop into something more.

And beyond that what is the likelihood that such life develops intelligence? Scientists estimate there's roughly 9 million species currently on this planet, to say nothing of those that have gone extinct, and we are the only species to develop this level of intelligence. Are the odds slimmer than 1/9000000? We're only working with a sample size of one planet with life?

It's kinda interesting so I just felt the need to go on a little rant.

Our understanding of Life has changed dramatically since the 1980s. Prior, the conventional wisdom was that life was fragile, and everything had to be 'just right' for it to get a toehold and eek out a living. But since? With the discovery of black-smoker communities, organisms living inside glaciers, solid rock, and extremophiles in general: we now know that life is extremely opportunistic, adaptive, and tenacious.

My guess is, the universe is likely teeming with life (if largely simple, primitive, microscopic). It might be better compared to an ocean than a desert; even our own lil' solar system may harbor a few extraterrestrial biospheres. That we've found nothing so far -- and therefore to conclude there's nothing -- has been compared to scooping up a glass of seawater, seeing nothing swimming around, then concluding there's no life in all that ocean.

Now intelligent life is something else (and by intelligent I mean symbolic/abstract thinkers using relatively complex tools). This may be quite rare. Consider: it's been estimated that since life began on Earth, some 50 billion species have arose (most of which are gone). Out of that, only one -- one! -- has risen to the level of (gonna try and say this seriously) intelligence, of technological dominance. One. Not too surprising though. Life has demonstrated convincingly that intelligence is not necessary for long-term survival (and it may even be counterproductive to that, ie, eventually self-terminating).

i believe in aliens, just not the conventional type people believe in.

I used to believe that as huge as the universe is that surely there would be intelligent life out there somewhere. Not so much anymore though.

Scientists have been looking for a loooooong time and yet they've still found nothing. As far as I know, they haven't even found a planet that would be suitable for life to exist on it.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I don't, but I'm interested to see how may forummers do.

The helicopter pilot I fly with is now retired from the Air Force, but has been a pilot since the early 2000s.

Anyway, it took a while working with him, but he eventually started opening up about some of the UFOs that himself, and many other Air Force pilots, apparently see all the time. It's pretty crazy hearing him describe these things. Granted they're still just his personal "stories" or w/e, but I consider him to be a very reputable source. /shrug

I would love talking with him!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Mindship
Our understanding of Life has changed dramatically since the 1980s. Prior, the conventional wisdom was that life was fragile, and everything had to be 'just right' for it to get a toehold and eek out a living. But since? With the discovery of black-smoker communities, organisms living inside glaciers, solid rock, and extremophiles in general: we now know that life is extremely opportunistic, adaptive, and tenacious.

My guess is, the universe is likely teeming with life (if largely simple, primitive, microscopic). It might be better compared to an ocean than a desert; even our own lil' solar system may harbor a few extraterrestrial biospheres. That we've found nothing so far -- and therefore to conclude there's nothing -- has been compared to scooping up a glass of seawater, seeing nothing swimming around, then concluding there's no life in all that ocean.

Now intelligent life is something else (and by intelligent I mean symbolic/abstract thinkers using relatively complex tools). This may be quite rare. Consider: it's been estimated that since life began on Earth, some 50 billion species have arose (most of which are gone). Out of that, only one -- one! -- has risen to the level of (gonna try and say this seriously) intelligence, of technological dominance. One. Not too surprising though. Life has demonstrated convincingly that intelligence is not necessary for long-term survival (and it may even be counterproductive to that, ie, eventually self-terminating).

The universe is massive and still expanding so yeah I do believe that there's intelligent life on other worlds

The argument against intelligent life in the universe says that the universe is so huge and so old that it's not impossible to think intelligent life could be out there, yet it's so huge and so old that the odds of these beings existing at the same time as us and being able to visit us is extremely low.

Life on other planets? Almost certainly.

Intelligent life on other planets? Possibly.

Intelligent life on another planet existing right now? Mathematically unlikely.