Do you believe in UFO's

Originally posted by samhain
The argument against intelligent life in the universe says that the universe is so huge and so old that it's not impossible to think intelligent life could be out there, yet it's so huge and so old that the odds of these beings existing at the same time as us and being able to visit us is extremely low.

Life on other planets? Almost certainly.

Intelligent life on other planets? Possibly.

Intelligent life on another planet existing right now? Mathematically unlikely.

Originally posted by Galan007
The helicopter pilot I fly with is now retired from the Air Force, but has been a pilot since the early 2000s.

Anyway, it took a while working with him, but he eventually started opening up about some of the UFOs that himself, and many other Air Force pilots, apparently see all the time. It's pretty crazy hearing him describe these things. Granted they're still just his personal "stories" or w/e, but I consider him to be a very reputable source. /shrug

Lol, I'm sure.

Good dude, though. LOTS of military experience, and he was extremely hesitant to even talk about some of his sightings. I've worked with him for over a year now, and he only just started mentioning some of this stuff a few weeks ago.

I definitely believe he saw *something* that was technologically beyond anything we know of... Just like I believe some of the other military personnel who've had similar encounters with this stuff. Now who/what was piloting these crafts is completely open for debate. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, I'm sure.

Good dude, though. LOTS of military experience, and he was extremely hesitant to even talk about some of his sightings. I've worked with him for over a year now, and he only just started mentioning some of this stuff a few weeks ago.

I definitely believe he saw *something* that was technologically beyond anything we know of... Just like I believe some of the other military personnel who've had similar encounters with this stuff. Now who/what was piloting these crafts is completely open for debate. /shrug

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I bet he keeps that wuiet at his psych evaluations.

Probably, and that is part of the problem. The people who are most qualified to be making these sightings could potentially endanger their careers by speaking about it. This is one of the reasons MUFON was created. A pilot would potentially be able to evaluate the speed of a craft and if it's doing aerial maneuvers truly unlike anything we are currently capable of doing, etc.

And yet there are plenty of sightings from reputable pilots. Heck the term "flying saucer" first originated from an encounter with a guy who was a pilot and was in fact flying in his plane when he encountered these mysterious crafts(fun fact: they weren't saucer shaped).

I don't know what these things are, nobody does. It could be aliens, it could be our government has access to technology far more advanced than anything they have chosen to reveal. That would actually be a more disturbing revelation in some ways.

Originally posted by Surtur
Probably, and that is part of the problem. The people who are most qualified to be making these sightings could potentially endanger their careers by speaking about it. This is one of the reasons MUFON was created.

And yet there are plenty of sightings from reputable pilots. Heck the term "flying saucer" first originated from an encounter with a guy who was a pilot and was in fact flying in his plane when he encountered these mysterious crafts(fun fact: they weren't saucer shaped).

I don't know what these things are, nobody does. It could be aliens, it could be our government has access to technology far more advanced than anything they have chosen to reveal. That would actually be a more disturbing revelation in some ways.

Perhaps for some, but for every single one?

There is no way that every single UFO sighting made by military personnel are fake. Some, sure, but many of these guys aren't just going to put their careers, reputations, and livelihood on the line for the lulz.

That doesn't necessarily mean the crafts they see are being flown by little green men or w/e. Just means there is some shit out there that not even highly trained pilots are able to identify/comprehend.

Hot air balloons, trick of the light. Many more women with no previous mental illness see Ghosts, why does a vet get less of a standard of evidence?

Hot air balloons...lol

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Hot air balloons, trick of the light. Many more women with no previous mental illness see Ghosts, why does a vet get less of a standard of evidence?

Everyone's a skeptic, until they witness something for themselves.

Originally posted by Galan007
There is no way that every single UFO sighting made by military personnel are fake. Some, sure, but many of these guys aren't just going to put their careers, reputations, and livelihood on the line for the lulz.

That doesn't necessarily mean the crafts they see are being flown by little green men or w/e. Just means there is some shit out there that not even highly trained pilots are able to identify/comprehend.

When it comes to UFO sightings, I do believe that many people are not liars as they legitimately believe they saw something.

The people who claim to have come into contact with aliens, been abducted, anal probed, taken off world etc., I do think they're lying.

Though I'd be lying if a small part of me didn't think it could be real in some of the instances.

What if these craft are from a parallel Earth instead of another planet in our universe? That oddly kinda sounds slightly more plausible to me.

Never saw a UFO.

But I did witness something kind of strange. It looked almost like a massive movie theater screen alternating between repeating pattern neon blue and red lines and animated shapes, and some illegible writing.

The odd thing, was it seemed huge. Like, bigger then the upper section of house it seemed to be emanating from, and it seemed to change size to super large, then smaller.

I'm sure there's a good explanation, but kind if wish I took off and got closer, because it was just strange.

human eyes and instruments

What about the "Battle of Los Angeles" ?

Whatever the thing was, it endured thousands of rounds of machine gun fire and anti aircraft artillery. The government said it was a weather balloon lol.

Keep in mind nothing was ever recovered, no wreckage of any kind. this wasn't like Roswell.

The picture shows them clearly firing at something. You can see the explosions. I don't know what to make of this. Maybe we just make really really tough weather balloons? Or maybe none of the thousands of thousands of rounds fired hit it. I don't know.

These people weren't f*cking around either. Shell fragments did damage to several buildings and cars and 3 people died as a result of accidents cuz of that.

Originally posted by Surtur
What about the "Battle of Los Angeles" ?

Whatever the thing was, it endured thousands of rounds of machine gun fire and anti aircraft artillery. The government said it was a weather balloon lol.

Keep in mind nothing was ever recovered, no wreckage of any kind. this wasn't like Roswell.

The picture shows them clearly firing at something. You can see the explosions. I don't know what to make of this. Maybe we just make really really tough weather balloons? Or maybe none of the thousands of thousands of rounds fired hit it. I don't know.

These people weren't f*cking around either. Shell fragments did damage to several buildings and cars and 3 people died as a result of accidents cuz of that.

Won't say the do or don't exist. But I can say one aint never landed in my back yard to ask for directions yet.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Won't say the do or don't exist. But I can say one aint never landed in my back yard to ask for directions yet. [/B]