Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I think you are the one not understanding enough about analogies to make one fitting for this case. Try again.
The analogy was to show that you're unable to bring your full strength to bear when you're taken out of your element. Not whether the shark was able to use the water as its weapon.
If Shazam just blitzes like he should right off the bat, he does to Wanda what he did to that mugger in the park at night.
Also, if Wanda started to TK Shazam, could Shazam power through it? I guess that comes down to if Shazam's flight can overcome her TK or if Shazam is more durable and strong than Thanos to just tank it.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
If Shazam just blitzes like he should right off the bat, he does to Wanda what he did to that mugger in the park at night.Also, if Wanda started to TK Shazam, could Shazam power through it? I guess that comes down to if Shazam's flight can overcome her TK or if Shazam is more durable and strong than Thanos to just tank it.
Wanda doesn't have any TK feat to suggest she could hold someone as strong as Shazam for long. She held Thanos off the ground but he doesn't have flight. She was unable to push him away from her while he was on the ground. She was able to contain an explosion for a few seconds before it escaped her control. Plus Shazam does have the option of zapping her with lightning if the ever tried to hold him.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Wanda doesn't have any TK feat to suggest she could hold someone as strong as Shazam for long. She held Thanos off the ground but he doesn't have flight. She was unable to push him away from her while he was on the ground. She was able to contain an explosion for a few seconds before it escaped her control. Plus Shazam does have the option of zapping her with lightning if the ever tried to hold him.
Shazam is massively underrated tbh.
Just because he didnt push a mountain people are acting like hes a non factor. When fact is his speed alone makes him a very formidable opponent who could beat most.
Add on top of that his flight, firing lightning from his hands, bullet proof durability, and strength to easily catch a bus, he could definitely take a ton of powerhouses. And should be taken more seriously on these boards methinks.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIncorrect since human level reflexes and man made weaponry already was shown to be quick enough to neutralize Superman despite the highest of stakes.
By beings of equal speed dummy.The MCU characters are simply slower than their DCEU counterparts. And Youre well aware of that which is why you chickened out on me.
That is one variable alone. Speed is not the end all be all. If that were the case flash would be king in the dceu. You ignore everything else because you are too close minded and ignorant.
You forfeited like a coward.
Originally posted by FrothByteBut in this case it's not the shark using the water as a weapon. It's a natural ability of him so strong that it's killing the elephant.
The analogy was to show that you're unable to bring your full strength to bear when you're taken out of your element. Not whether the shark was able to use the water as its weapon.
You can clearly see Thanos can't move even before she elevates him. Not to mention how easily she disarmed him.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But in this case it's not the shark using the water as a weapon. It's a natural ability of him so strong that it's killing the elephant.You can clearly see Thanos can't move even before she elevates him. Not to mention how easily she disarmed him.
Yeah, you can see him pull rigid at 0:36-0:37 already, before he starts lifting into the air. I mean he seemingly couldn't even budge his arms (see how casually she forces his arm straight and pulls off a piece of armour at 0:42), and his legs don't need to be on the ground to move those.
And the other instance it was literally only half her power, and Thanos was using an Infinity Stone to aid him in his advance.
And just to throw in a feat against a flying opponent, she redirected a diving Leviathan in Endgame as well:
But, again, this is kind of irrelevant. Billy should blitz unless we're assuming he acts like a dumbass, which wouldn't be fair if we're simultaneously assuming that Wanda is fighting at her best.