Appeals Court Grants Trump Administration right to snub sanctuary cities

Originally posted by Surtur
Tennessee Man Accused of Killing Infant Has Been Deported 5 Times, ICE says

Was deported multiple times under Obama.

Thanks, I guess?

Don't forget about Kate Steinle; that happened under Obama's watch as well. The thug who killed her had been deported several times. Then the jury in California let him off scott-free. Sickening.

Originally posted by Surtur
*yawn* Stop pretending like you give a shit about the constitution. Just be honest and say this is about Trump.

You've obviously missed my point.

It's the right that virtue signal about caring about the constitution.

Let me give some examples.

When Trump attacks the media and bans certain outlets and journalists from Whitehouse briefings in a blatant attack on freedom of speech and freedom of the press, Trumpers cheer.

When Trump blanket bans Muslims from legally entering the US and says that "bad things are happening" and "something will need to be done" about mosques in the US in a blatant attack on freedom of religion, Trumpers cheer

Then you get people on the right who lambasted Obama when he used executive orders to pass legislation as flagrant overreach of executive power. Then when Trump signs more executive orders in his first year than Obama did in any of his 8 years, Trumpers cheer.

See?

ICE: Man Who Shot At Napa Deputy In Country Illegally, Deported Multiple Times

Thanks Obama! I'm better than anyone who supported you.

Cops blast California sanctuary city policies after previously deported illegal immigrant arrested for murder

Thanks Obama! I'm better than anyone who supported you.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
You've obviously missed my point.

It's the right that virtue signal about caring about the constitution.

Let me give some examples.

When Trump attacks the media and bans certain outlets and journalists from Whitehouse briefings in a blatant attack on freedom of speech and freedom of the press, Trumpers cheer.

When Trump blanket bans Muslims from legally entering the US and says that "bad things are happening" and "something will need to be done" about mosques in the US in a blatant attack on freedom of religion, Trumpers cheer

Then you get people on the right who lambasted Obama when he used executive orders to pass legislation as flagrant overreach of executive power. Then when Trump signs more executive orders in his first year than Obama did in any of his 8 years, Trumpers cheer.

See?

We aren't gonna pretend like the left have not cried about the constitution in regards to Trump. Just one example:

Trump just keeps botching how Congress and the Constitution work

If only republicans care, not sure why WaPo opened their mouth about it. Thoughts?

Oh and it was dems suing Trump over twitter blocking, talking about muh constitution and muh rights.

EDIT: Also dems who feel folk should be able to sue gun manufacturers over gun deaths.

So, in effect, jaden was whining that conservatives-- in his mind at least-- we're not being consistent. LOL

Guess he is just gonna conveniently ignore all the times the left has not been consistent.

Which group, left or right, constantly bleats about the integrity of the constitution?

In this very thread you have an example of Trump trying to do something unconstitutional, a federal judge slapping it down as being unconstitutional and a rightist attacking the judge as an "activist".

Seems like an example of the constitution only mattering when it holds up something you support.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Which group, left or right, constantly bleats about the integrity of the constitution?

In this very thread you have an example of Trump trying to do something unconstitutional, a federal judge slapping it down as being unconstitutional and a rightist attacking the judge as an "activist".

Seems like an example of the constitution only mattering when it holds up something you support.

What I'm saying is you don't get to disregard the constitution and then cry about it.

Yes, the right does try to go on and on about it more than the left. Which is why the left should keep it's name out of their mouth lol, cuz they don't give a shit about it.

Seems like an example of not giving a shit about the constitution until it's politically convenient.

@jaden: People post things frequently on this forum pointing out how leftists are not consistent. Yet you never make a big deal out of it.

Yeah, the left likes to use the Constitution when it's convenient for them but when it's not? Meh... it's just a piece of paper written by a bunch of racists old white men.

The claim is Republicans play up the constitution a lot and disregard it when convenient.

Of course that's no better than ignoring the constitution and then whining like a b*tch about it when politically convenient.

How...why..does this need to be said? Legit don't get it, do people not realize this goes both ways or do they just legit not care and wanna attempt some failed gotcha?

I'm happy to slap these failed gotchas down though, but I don't see the point in even attempting them when it is doomed to fail.

I mean this is just like the dunking on conservatives for "muh private company" over their complaints over social media companies.

Leftists were against mega corporations having so much power, until they weren't. And the only reason they suddenly weren't was political.

This is all irrelevant anyway because there is nothing in the Constitution that says illegal aliens have a right to be in this country so conservatives are not being inconsistent.

IA's negatively affect our country in a multitude of ways. They, as a whole, put a strain on our economy (the entire country not just localized areas where they are) and they also unfairly influence our national elections. So, it's a national issue and thus the federal government should be involved.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/illegal-immigrants-distort-congressional-representation-and-federal-programs

https://www.quora.com/How-do-illegal-immigrants-directly-affect-Electoral-College-elections-and-elections-for-the-House-of-Representatives

If illegal aliens didn't affect the country as a whole then you might've had an argument, jaden, but they do, so you don't.

Originally posted by Surtur
The claim is Republicans play up the constitution a lot and disregard it when convenient.

Of course that's no better than ignoring the constitution and then whining like a b*tch about it when politically convenient.

How...why..does this need to be said? Legit don't get it, do people not realize this goes both ways or do they just legit not care and wanna attempt some failed gotcha?

I'm happy to slap these failed gotchas down though, but I don't see the point in even attempting them when it is doomed to fail.

I mean this is just like the dunking on conservatives for "muh private company" over their complaints over social media companies.

Leftists were against mega corporations having so much power, until they weren't. And the only reason they suddenly weren't was political.

👆

I just don't buy that most on the left care about the constitution.

They wouldn't praise New Zealand and Australia for their actions on guns if they truly cared about it.

They like it when they can use it to dunk on Trump, otherwise they deem it as inconsequential.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
@jaden: People post things frequently on this forum pointing out how leftists are not consistent. Yet you never make a big deal out of it.

Yeah, the left likes to use the Constitution when it's convenient for them but when it's not? Meh... it's just a piece of paper written by a bunch of racists old white men.

So exactly what you're doing.

Great. Glad we've cleared that up. 👍

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
So exactly what you're doing.

Great. Glad we've cleared that up. 👍

Yeah, we cleared up that there is nothing in the constitution that says IA's have a right to be in this country. That's cleared-up, yes. 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
The claim is Republicans play up the constitution a lot and disregard it when convenient.

Of course that's no better than ignoring the constitution and then whining like a b*tch about it when politically convenient.

How...why..does this need to be said? Legit don't get it, do people not realize this goes both ways or do they just legit not care and wanna attempt some failed gotcha?

I'm happy to slap these failed gotchas down though, but I don't see the point in even attempting them when it is doomed to fail.

I mean this is just like the dunking on conservatives for "muh private company" over their complaints over social media companies.

Leftists were against mega corporations having so much power, until they weren't. And the only reason they suddenly weren't was political.

It needs to be said because it's not just "the right" as a group. It's actually individuals on this forum that do it.

The whole "private company" thing is clearly putting a mirror up to the right, who for years used this argument, and now suddenly want certain companies regulated. While also campaigning to deregulate other industries.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It needs to be said because it's not just "the right" as a group. It's actually individuals on this forum that do it.

The whole "private company" thing is clearly putting a mirror up to the right, who for years used this argument, and now suddenly want certain companies regulated. While also campaigning to deregulate other industries.

I love how leftist hypocrisy is just spun as "putting a mirror up to the right".

And did you wanna claim leftists here don't practice the same hypocrisy? Cuz if so you're full of it lol. But you will, won't you? You're that far gone.

Originally posted by Surtur
I love how leftist hypocrisy is just spun as "putting a mirror up to the right".

And did you wanna claim leftists here don't practice the same hypocrisy? Cuz you're full of it lol.

Yeah, they don't like turning that same mirror on themselves because then they'd see their own hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Surtur
I love how leftist hypocrisy is just spun as "putting a mirror up to the right".

And did you wanna claim leftists here don't practice the same hypocrisy? Cuz if so you're full of it lol. But you will, won't you? You're that far gone.

I'll take it from that meltdown that you can't argue against what I've said. 👍

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'll take it from that meltdown that you can't argue against what I've said. 👍

And in turn, I'll assume from your improper use of the word meltdown you have no valid argument. Sorta like when you guys cry fascism, racism, sexism, etc.

That was a "meltdown"? Funny, I didn't see it as one. You just don't like that Surtur is right.