Steppenwolf runs the MCU Thor gauntlet

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Prove that they were slow.

I don't need to. Slow is an opinion. Slower than the arrow shot by the Amazon, that's for sure.

To satisfy you, just look at the time elapsed (or feel itl after the blast leaves their gun and travels to the edge of the screen. It's more time than it would take a 100mph fastball to travel the same distance.
You can clearly see the motion.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I read your comment on Loki. It doesn't matter that the arrow was fired from a distance if you only see it just as it's about to hit you.

As for Thor's feat, it's when he's fighting Chitauri back to back with Cap. Go look it up yourself, it's all over youtube.


No then read it. I stated the feat is impressive because he didn't look, not because of reaction time.

IOW, you're using strict visual speed. great, does strict visual speed also get applied to all of Ozy's feats?

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you're using strict visual speed. great, does strict visual speed also get applied to all of Ozy's feats?

If there is no other reference to how fast something is moving or moves then we use visual speed. For example, if the movie called those blasts actual lasers then we ignore visual speed.

For another example, although the bullets on the Helicarrier against Thor and Hulk we're traveling visually slow we assume they are real bullets traveling at the speed of a real bullet.

There is no such thing as bullet speed, as bullets speeds vary even among bullets of the same caliber depending on different conditions such as what the bullet is made of and the load.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Thor no hammer was besting the Hulk.

Stepp was smacking around Wonder Woman and Aquaman like if they were garbage, but once a character came into the picture that was an actual powerhouse , not a just a tier or two above Captain America, then Stepp became just a mere punching bag.

Thor wins hammer or not.

Ha! You think Wonder Woman is only a teir above Captain America?

You must be smoking crack with your mom on the weekends.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong! Lightning that comes in the air contains electrons AND PLASMA.
electrons heat the air so hot that it becomes plasma surrounding the electrons. Electrons are invisible. Lightning is not. Think about it.

Okay, first of all plasma is the result of the flow of electrons, but the lightning itself is electrons.

That's why I asked if you knew what an ampere was...

Only h1 could take a rational debate and turn it fcking stupid

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Ha! You think Wonder Woman is only a teir above Captain America?

You must be smoking crack with your mom on the weekends.

Lol, did not read that gem.

Be patient.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes i can, judging by the speed of the blasts.
I played college baseball and have easily hit 90+ mph fastballs. Bunting a 90+ mph fastball is even easier.

Except a baseball has a much larger surface area than those blasts, so are vastly easier to see coming at you.

To do what Thor was doing (and we never saw him miss one or get hit like Captain America did, who has a huge shield to defend himself with) you need enhanced reflexes and speed perception, period.

If youre going to claim otherwise, then post a clip of something you think is comparable, and we shall compare speeds and surface areas.

If you cant do so, then I shall accept your concession.

Originally posted by h1a8

For another example, although the bullets on the Helicarrier against Thor and Hulk we're traveling visually slow we assume they are real bullets traveling at the speed of a real bullet.

Lmao so youve also just posted proof from the same damn film that the visuals for projectile weapons are considerably slowed down for viewers perception.

Anyway post the video ive asked or concede the point.

H1 doesn't understand how suspension of disbelief works.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Lol, did not read that gem.

Be patient.

😂

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't need to. Slow is an opinion. Slower than the arrow shot by the Amazon, that's for sure.

To satisfy you, just look at the time elapsed (or feel itl after the blast leaves their gun and travels to the edge of the screen. It's more time than it would take a 100mph fastball to travel the same distance.
You can clearly see the motion.

No then read it. I stated the feat is impressive because he didn't look, not because of reaction time.

Well thank you for admitting that it's only your opinion and that it isn't actually slow.

Now then, I guess we can all agree that those blasts weren't actually slow unless you have actual proof.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Ha! You think Wonder Woman is only a teir above Captain America?

You must be smoking crack with your mom on the weekends.

I agree that Wonder Woman is quite a bit above Cap. Can't comment on anybodies drug habits7

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Ha! You think Wonder Woman is only a teir above Captain America?

You must be smoking crack with your mom on the weekends.

lol.

I cant count the times ive had to explain shit on here like if im talking to 5 years olds so they can be able to understand.

Movie Cap has done shit like thrown motorcycles so hard it caved in the front of a military jeep. Kept a Helicopter from taking off. You needed like like 8-12 tons of force to accomplish that feat if i remember correctly from, an article. Moved a multi ton slab of concrete in Winter Soldier, etc.
Wonder Woman in her Movie lifts a Mark V tank over her head. That model of tank weighs in at around 28 tons.
The Submarine Aquaman lifts "in water" would fall into the same range as WW's feat. In the same movie Aquaman was struggling to lift some debris in the city from the Black Manta fight.
Spiderman would also fall into the one or two tiers above Cap as well. With the holding up the airport bridge falling on him.

Anyhow I said "a tier or two above movie Cap, which is totally in line with what we seen of these characters from the movies.

All these characters dont compare to the highest end heavy hitters from the movies like Superman, Hulk, Thor, Thanos, etc.

If you cant understand this, let me know ill have to try some simpler shit and bust out some crayons and ill try to draw something so you can understand.

Originally posted by Silent Master
There is no such thing as bullet speed, as bullets speeds vary even among bullets of the same caliber depending on different conditions such as what the bullet is made of and the load.

Your point?
No measurement is exact. Muzzle velocity of bullets of a caliber from a certain gun vary less than 10% of each other.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well thank you for admitting that it's only your opinion and that it isn't actually slow.

Now then, I guess we can all agree that those blasts weren't actually slow unless you have actual proof.


The next part of my post makes the part you are talking about irrelevant. Ignoring evidence is trolling.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except a baseball has a much larger surface area than those blasts, so are vastly easier to see coming at you.

To do what Thor was doing (and we never saw him miss one or get hit like Captain America did, who has a huge shield to defend himself with) you need enhanced reflexes and speed perception, period.

If youre going to claim otherwise, then post a clip of something you think is comparable, and we shall compare speeds and surface areas.

If you cant do so, then I shall accept your concession.

Lmao so youve also just posted proof from the same damn film that the visuals for projectile weapons are considerably slowed down for viewers perception.

Anyway post the video ive asked or concede the point.

The cross sectional area of those blasts are pretty big, probably as big as a baseball (coming from their guns). Anyway we got professional table tennis where the ball is smaller and the reaction times are even less.

Please also post the quote before I said, "for example ". Quoting me out of context changes the meaning of what I said.

Originally posted by Inhuman
lol.

I cant count the times ive had to explain shit on here like if im talking to 5 years olds so they can be able to understand.

Movie Cap has done shit like thrown motorcycles so hard it caved in the front of a military jeep. Kept a Helicopter from taking off. You needed like like 8-12 tons of force to accomplish that feat if i remember correctly from, an article. Moved a multi ton slab of concrete in Winter Soldier, etc.
Wonder Woman in her Movie lifts a Mark V tank over her head. That model of tank weighs in at around 28 tons.
The Submarine Aquaman lifts "in water" would fall into the same range as WW's feat. In the same movie Aquaman was struggling to lift some debris in the city from the Black Manta fight.
Spiderman would also fall into the one or two tiers above Cap as well. With the holding up the airport bridge falling on him.

Anyhow I said "a tier or [b]two above movie Cap, which is totally in line with what we seen of these characters from the movies.

All these characters dont compare to the highest end heavy hitters from the movies like Superman, Hulk, Thor, Thanos, etc.

If you cant understand this, let me know ill have to try some simpler shit and bust out some crayons and ill try to draw something so you can understand. [/B]

The helicopter feat is less than 2tons.
I would say Cap is a 5 tonner at best and a 1.5 tonner on average (since you want to average Aquaman and not take his best).

Originally posted by h1a8
The next part of my post makes the part you are talking about irrelevant. Ignoring evidence is trolling.

The next part of your post contains no proof that those blasts were slow, or at least any slower than arrows. So it's irrelevant.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The next part of your post contains no proof that those blasts were slow, or at least any slower than arrows. So it's irrelevant.

Of course it does. Just look at the posted seen. You can see the speed is less than a 100pmh thrown baseball (which is less than an arrow).

Now if the blasts looks faster than any thrown baseball or an arrow to you then just say so. We will discuss it. If it doesn't then you are clearly trolling.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course it does. Just look at the posted seen. You can see the speed is less than a 100pmh thrown baseball (which is less than an arrow).

Now if the blasts looks faster than any thrown baseball or an arrow to you then just say so. We will discuss it. If it doesn't then you are clearly trolling.

Those blasts were leaving a trail of light a few meters long. Of course it's visible. That doesn't mean it's slow. I'm still waiting for you to prove that it was slow