Originally posted by Robtard
@surtYou're obviously using yourself as the example here. You've survived your whole life in your shithole part of Chicago without a gun, do you actually think waiting for a gun 30days from even today will mean life or death?
Dude stop lying, your legendary memory should know better.
I do not live in one of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago, I have said this. My neighborhood has gotten increasingly worse over the years, but it's no ghetto. The worst places here look like demilitarized zones.
Lets say you have a mother a father and a kid. The father gets mixed up in crime and gangs. Gets killed. Sometimes these gangs will target the families in retaliation as well. The mother wants to get a gun to protect herself and child. She should wait 30 days?
Originally posted by Surtur
Dude stop lying, your legendary memory should know better.I do not live in one of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago, I have said this. My neighborhood has gotten increasingly worse over the years, but it's no ghetto. The worst places here look like demilitarized zones.
Lets say you have a mother a father and a kid. The father gets mixed up in crime and gangs. Gets killed. Sometimes these gangs will target the families in retaliation as well. The mother wants to get a gun to protect herself and child. She should wait 30 days?
You just called me a liar and then lied about what I said. I did not say: "you live in one of the worst neighborhoods".
You also dodged my question.
Originally posted by Robtard
You just called me a liar and then lied about what I said. I did not say: "you live in one of the worst neighborhoods".You also dodged my question.
You said I was using myself. I wasn't. But if I was, that would have been me saying I live in one of the worst neighborhoods because I used that example.
As to your question, I'm not talking about situations where you just live in a bad neighborhood. I'm talking about a specific threat on a persons life. So yes, if there are people who specifically want to do me harm I don't wanna wait 30 damn days.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Shootings are happening due to rhetoric of trump so this needs to happen. The guy is too divide and tearing apart our country. People do not feel safe.
Yeah, shootings never happened befpre Trump came along. 🙄
Just like hurricanes and weather changes never happened before Trump came along and pulled us out of that BS Paris climate agreement (or whatever in the Hell its actually called). 🙄
Trump is also responsible for the fall of the roman empire and the crucifixion of Christ. 🙄
Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm okay with it taking a month to get a firearm. But closer to 10 days is better. I think a cap (haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! pun!) of 20 days wait should be in place to prevent states from abusing the second amendment with super long wait times.So is my 10+ gun having little brother who is a gun hobbyist and has 4.5 acres to do target shooting and regularly hunts with his best friend.
I don't think a month is unreasonable at all. The idea of them taking their time to do a thorough background check is comforting.
Having just gone through the process of getting my first ever passport, they could do it similar to that. Have a month be like the worst case scenario, and if you pay more, you could have it expedited. With a passport, the baseline is about 3 months from the time you do all the paperwork to when you get it, but you can pay to get that time down to a few weeks, and you can pay even more to get it down to like 10 days. Could do the same with guns.
Originally posted by Surtur
You said I was using myself. I wasn't. But if I was, that would have been me saying I live in one of the worst neighborhoods because I used that example.As to your question, I'm not talking about situations where you just live in a bad neighborhood. I'm talking about a specific threat on a persons life. So yes, if there are people who specifically want to do me harm I don't wanna wait 30 damn days.
Because you likely were, as you've on multiple occasions have said that you need a gun to protect yourself from potential gang shootings.
If someone feels their life is in immediate danger due to a specific known threat, they should call the police instead of going to the gun store, or at least before going. That's just sensible.
Originally posted by BackFire
I don't think a month is unreasonable at all. The idea of them taking their time to do a thorough background check is comforting.Having just gone through the process of getting my first ever passport, they could do it similar to that. Have a month be like the worst case scenario, and if you pay more, you could have it expedited. With a passport, the baseline is about 3 months from the time you do all the paperwork to when you get it, but you can pay to get that time down to a few weeks, and you can pay even more to get it down to like 10 days. Could do the same with guns.
So, like passports you'd only have to do the long background check once every 10 or so years?
Originally posted by Robtard
Because you likely were, as you've on multiple occasions have said that you need a gun to protect yourself from potential gang shootings.If someone feels their life is in immediate danger due to a specific known threat, they should call the police instead of going to the gun store, or at least before going. That's just sensible.
Gangs are in a lot of neighborhoods unfortunately, not just the worst of the worst.
And again: ideally going to the police would help, but that is not always the case.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So, like passports you'd only have to do the long background check once every 10 or so years?
Sure. Even less, as how I understand it, once you have a passport it's pretty quick and easy to get it renewed. Once you pass a full and thorough background check for buying a gun a quicker one every 10-20 years would probably be fine .
Originally posted by BackFire
Sure. Even less, as how I understand it, once you have a passport it's pretty quick and easy to get it renewed. Once you pass a full and thorough background check for buying a gun a quicker one every 10-20 years would probably be fine .
That would be reasonable, though I'd probably have it every couple of years. After all, if you passed the extended background check in July of 2019. future checks would only have to cover the time after July 2019.