Originally posted by relentless1
Batman could give Cull and and Proxima a run for their money, Widow and Cap did... the others can be speed blitzed by Diana and Kal easily enough
That wasnt Cull they Cap and Widow fought. They fought Corvus and Proxima.
Cull is fairly beastly. Above Iron Man at least.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He was using the prototype. Hence by your logic all his previous armours were physically weaker. So dont start making excuses, the second your own logic you expect us all to accept as fact, doesnt work in your favour.So tell me Josh why wasnt IM in the Hulkbuster armour for the entirety of AOU? Clearly it was far too big and impractical for regular use. But clearly far far stronger than the armour he uses 99% of the time.
Btw You still havent posted the Hulk vs Thanos and IM vs Thanos videos and time stamped where they displayed the same striking power. Given no one else sees that, the least you could do is visually back up your claim.
What type of strawman are you trying to pull out here? Obviously a prototype is a prototype, a suit that's not fully ready for combat. I never said that a prototype is better than it's predecessors.
Look, I can concede that the Hulkbuster armor is stronger than other suits. But the MK50 suit doesn't stay behind.
Again, the Nanosuit was having similar effects on Thanos as Hulk's punches.
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Thanos was being pushed back. We clearly saw the suit's gauntlets turning into some sort of hammer or propulsor, as to enhance the punch. Clearly not comparable to Cull Obsidian's ones.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What type of strawman are you trying to pull out here? Obviously a prototype is a prototype, a suit that's not fully ready for combat. I never said that a prototype is better than it's predecessors.
Proof it wasn't combat ready? It was his latest suit he was using. It's not like he mass produced his other suits.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Look, I can concede that the Hulkbuster armor is stronger than other suits. But the MK50 suit doesn't stay behind.
There is zero reason to believe any of his other suits, including MK50 are as strong as Hulkbuster.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again, the Nanosuit was having similar effects on Thanos as Hulk's punches.osSJhXruEzU&t=80s
Thanos was being pushed back. We clearly saw the suit's gauntlets turning into some sort of hammer or propulsor, as to enhance the punch. Clearly not comparable to Cull Obsidian's ones.
Thanks for not actually time stamping anything. I assume you're referring to 0:29. Well like you said he had to convert his fists into those hammer type things first. So you were being a little disingenuous claiming it's simply his punches (and implying strength from that). Also that was a 2 handed hit (so presumably double the power) and to the chest (increased chances of pushing Thanos's whole body backwards).
I don't really see any comparable punch from Hulk here @0:30 onwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5WPKT0690
But I will say every Single punch was pretty effective from Hulk. No single punch from IM was that effective. Ergo no reason to believe any single punch (even hammer punches) from IMs MK50 suit are comparable to a single punch from Hulk.
The double punch perhaps was. But again, it's converting his fists to weapons, and still using both hands (ergo double the power). And Even still not directly comparable as it was a blow to the chest.
Also notice at 0:32 on your video how IM MK50 is dropped to the floor in a single punch which IM even blocked. So There's clearly a massive difference between MK50 IM and Hulk when comparing them Physically. Whereas Hulkbuster and Hulk were far more physically comparable.
Your turn. And kindly time stamp your responses/evidences.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What type of strawman are you trying to pull out here? Obviously, a prototype is a prototype, a suit that's not fully ready for combat. I never said that a prototype is better than it's predecessors.L
HAHAHA as if he went into combat with Thanos and his goons without testing his suit😂
And as if this suit was not built on the foundations of his previous suits and this was the culmination of all his reserach and product development.
You childish lying goon!
Originally posted by Darth Thor\
Proof it wasn't combat ready? It was his latest suit he was using. It's not like he mass produced his other suits.There is zero reason to believe any of his other suits, including MK50 are as strong as Hulkbuster.
Thanks for not actually time stamping anything. I assume you're referring to 0:29. Well like you said he had to convert his fists into those hammer type things first. So you were being a little disingenuous claiming it's simply his punches (and implying strength from that). Also that was a 2 handed hit (so presumably double the power) and to the chest (increased chances of pushing Thanos's whole body backwards).
I don't really see any comparable punch from Hulk here @0:30 onwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5WPKT0690
But I will say every Single punch was pretty effective from Hulk. No single punch from IM was that effective. Ergo no reason to believe any single punch (even hammer punches) from IMs MK50 suit are comparable to a single punch from Hulk.
The double punch perhaps was. But again, it's converting his fists to weapons, and still using both hands (ergo double the power). And Even still not directly comparable as it was a blow to the chest.
Also notice at 0:32 on your video how IM MK50 is dropped to the floor in a single punch which IM even blocked. So There's clearly a massive difference between MK50 IM and Hulk when comparing them Physically. Whereas Hulkbuster and Hulk were far more physically comparable.
Your turn. And kindly time stamp your responses/evidences.
Stop it with the strawman. Obviously a prototype isn't combat ready! That's why it's called a prototype, as it is still in test phase.
MK 42 suit:
The Mark XLII (Mark 42), known by its code name "Extremis" or the “Prodigal Son” is an Autonomous Prehensile Propulsion Suit Prototype
I didn't say it was stronger than the HB armor. But certainly overall, a more powerful armor than the HB.
I never said that Thanos being cut by IM was due to the punches strenght alone. Obviously there was heat, as the fist turned in some sort of propulsor hammer. I've also stated that an edge of the gauntlet/hammer could have impacted Thanos, exherting a massively high force under a small area.
I am comparing IM's single punch to the face to Hulk's punches, I don't think I need to timestamp that.
Did Hulk make Thanos bleed? Did Hulk pissed Thanos? Thanos wasn't even bothered!
Sure, I concede that Thanos was wearing armor, but there's really no evidence to suggest that Hulk's punches were having a superior effect to IM's single punch to the face.
I am not saying that the MK50 suit is stronger 'overall' than Hulk. We are only punching strength here between the two scenes.
Either way, nothing you've provided here suggests that Superman can replicate cutting Thanos with a punch in the face.
In any case, sticking to topic, Superman has o feat to suggest his attacks will have a better effect on Thanos than Thor's, Captain Marvel's, Worthy Cap, or Hulk's.
IM cuttiing Thanos obviously has other implications besides punching strength
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
\Stop it with the strawman. Obviously a prototype isn't combat ready! That's why it's called a prototype, as it is still in test phase.
MK 42 suit:
I didn't say it was stronger than the HB armor. But certainly overall, a more powerful armor than the HB.
I never said that Thanos being cut by IM was due to the punches strenght alone. Obviously there was heat, as the fist turned in some sort of propulsor hammer. I've also stated that an edge of the gauntlet/hammer could have impacted Thanos, exherting a massively high force under a small area.
I am comparing IM's single punch to the face to Hulk's punches, I don't think I need to timestamp that.
Did Hulk make Thanos bleed? Did Hulk pissed Thanos? Thanos wasn't even bothered!
Sure, I concede that Thanos was wearing armor, but there's really no evidence to suggest that Hulk's punches were having a superior effect to IM's single punch to the face.
I am not saying that the MK50 suit is stronger 'overall' than Hulk. We are only punching strength here between the two scenes.
[B]Either way, nothing you've provided here suggests that Superman can replicate cutting Thanos with a punch in the face.
In any case, sticking to topic, Superman has o feat to suggest his attacks will have a better effect on Thanos than Thor's, Captain Marvel's, Worthy Cap, or Hulk's.
IM cuttiing Thanos obviously has other implications besides punching strength
[/B]
Goal post moving, concession accepted.
Superman clearly hits harder than Iron Man but the one Iron Man attack was not the only attack that led to one drop of blood. Why would Thanos state all that for a drop of blood if it was just the one attack. That would make no sense.
The commentary confirms it was a cumulative process that led to it not just the one attack.
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Josh needs to say out loud " Iron Man hits harder than Superman" just to hear how ridiculous that sounds
Quote me saying in here that Superman hits harder than IM.
@DarthThor, @WolvesofBabylone, and @AllTheOtherSupermanFans.
What's worse, you guys fail to realize the MASSIVE fallacy you guys are pulling out here by sayint that Thanos' cut by IM was due to strength alone.
Because that's your whole premise here right? Since Superman is stronger than IM then he can cut Thanos.
Well here is the sad truth. Punching strength wasn't the only factor inbeded in the feat.
And why on Earth would Superman be able to harm Thanos if Thor, Hulk and Captain Marvel were incapable of such?
Because cleary Superman has no strength feats to rival the ones above
In resume, Superman would misserably lose against Thanos without Speedblitzing.
Sorry DC fanboys, but speedblitzing is the only real advantage Superman has. Since this is pre-JL superman, he loses his only adv.
You are going to have to wait for better feats for him to rival beings like Captain Marvel and Thor.
Sorry not sorry.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderThanos would not lose even if he speedblitzed. This is a false myth. Quit perpetuating it.
In resume, Superman would misserably lose against Thanos without Speedblitzing.Sorry DC fanboys, but speedblitzing is the only real advantage Superman has. Since this is pre-JL superman, he loses his only adv.
You are going to have to wait for better feats for him to rival beings like Captain Marvel and Thor.
Sorry not sorry.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Quote me saying in here that Superman hits harder than IM.[B]@DarthThor, @WolvesofBabylone, and @AllTheOtherSupermanFans.
What's worse, you guys fail to realize the MASSIVE fallacy you guys are pulling out here by sayint that Thanos' cut by IM was due to strength alone.
Because that's your whole premise here right? Since Superman is stronger than IM then he can cut Thanos.
Well here is the sad truth. Punching strength wasn't the only factor inbeded in the feat.
And why on Earth would Superman be able to harm Thanos if Thor, Hulk and Captain Marvel were incapable of such?
Because cleary Superman has no strength feats to rival the ones above [/B]
Red Lettered Lob, yappy dog at it again.