Mexico has one gun store and gun violence is reaching an epidemic

Yeah, I can't help but to always laugh a little and roll my eyes when I hear some anti-Trumper claiming the wall will be "useless." It's ludicrous to think that walls don't work. Tell that to Israel. Tell it to the Pope who is protected by the vatican's walls. Tell it to the Ming Dynasty (if any of those people were still alive that is) who built the Great Wall of China. There are many other examples; and don't give me that BS that those examples are all different than ours at the border. They really aren't.

Would it completely stop illegal immigration and drugs being smuggled into the country? No, nothing could accomplish that. However, it will drastically cut down on both. That's a fact.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Automatic weapons are already restricted.

Then where are these loonies who go on their mass murder sprees getting the automatic weapons? Several times the story is repeated that they were bought legally. So how are they restricted again? Are you saying they were all done with single pump action shotguns and handguns, or something that mows down a crowd faster?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, I can't help but to always laugh a little and roll my eyes when I hear some anti-Trumper claiming the wall will be "useless." It's ludicrous to think that walls don't work.

We don't live in medieval times anymore. If the wall ever actually gets built the way Trump claims it will, it will go down as another colossal waste of government money up there with prohibition and the war on drugs.

I like Flamethrowers.

Originally posted by roughrider
Then where are these loonies who go on their mass murder sprees getting the automatic weapons? Several times the story is repeated that they were bought legally. So how are they restricted again? Are you saying they were all done with single pump action shotguns and handguns, or something that mows down a crowd faster?

They're not using automatic weapons.

You can't even buy automatics.

Originally posted by cdtm
You can't even buy automatics.

You can get a license to operate and own automatic weapons (there are specific requirements though) as well as silencers. That said the weapon of choice for most these attacks is the AR-15 semi-auto rifle that has "high" capacity magazines.

You would still need a sharpner.
There fore the gun problem is worth it to us to save Japan.

Originally posted by roughrider
We don't live in medieval times anymore. If the wall ever actually gets built the way Trump claims it will, it will go down as another colossal waste of government money up there with prohibition and the war on drugs.

Walls work. Period. And , no offense, but you aren't even american are you? If not, then your opinion on the wall getting built is irrelevant.👆

I'm so f***ing sick of "know-it-all" foreigners lecturing us americans on how we should or shouldn't do things or who we should or shouldn't vote for. Frankly, we don't care what you all think; especially not those of you who eschew nationalism in favor of globalism.

BUILD THAT WALL.

Originally posted by SquallX
We agree on a lot of things, but I’ll have to disagree with the wall being useless. Like anything in life, if it’s not man and taking off, of course it’s useless. But prophet care and maintenance, the wall if done properly can be very useful.

In war zones we use T-walls and barricades to slow the enemy before they can surround us, it doesn’t stop them 100% depending on the weapons they carrying, but it’s enough to give us a chance to counter attack.

You're not wrong but we are not in a warzone. The walls have proven very ineffective at what they are intending to do.

Unless we can have Robocop-escque drones with auto-response AI constantly patrolling the border, no wall will ever be successful.

To bring us more to the science part of this discussion, walls can work in certain areas. And it can be part of a complicated and diverse strategy to keep people out. However, alone, it is a giant waste of money. We simply do not possess the manpower and infrastructure to employ (no pun intended) all the things we need to have effective border security.

There's also a cost-benefit loss after a certain point. Meaning, keeping out the illegals will cost far more than the economic and criminal detriments that the illegal immigrants will create in the US.

There's a far better strategy to combat the economic drain immigrants have on the US: the Fair Tax Plan. They can try as hard as they want to avoid paying taxes but we'd capture their secret money systems under the fair tax plan and then they'd be far and away a positive economic benefit to the US. Ending my biggest complaints about illegals.

Citations:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-says-walls-work-its-much-more-complicated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/walls-are-the-foundation-of-civilization-but-do-they-work/2019/01/09/4d9e3662-12b5-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html

The reason the wall is wrong is because The Chinease wall.
That President Donald Trump pretended a Russia issue to cover up he is in bed with China needed to be known.

Originally posted by Silent Master
They're not using automatic weapons.

The Las Vegas shooter in 2017 used weapons that were comparable to automatic weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Walls work. Period. And , no offense, but you aren't even american are you? If not, then your opinion on the wall getting built is irrelevant.👆

I'm so f***ing sick of "know-it-all" foreigners lecturing us americans on how we should or shouldn't do things or who we should or shouldn't vote for. Frankly, we don't care what you all think; especially not those of you who eschew nationalism in favor of globalism.

BUILD THAT WALL.

It's your money. Yes it is - Mexico isn't paying for it, right? 😛

Nice campaign promise to fall for.

Originally posted by roughrider
The Las Vegas shooter in 2017 used weapons that were comparable to automatic weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

He used a bump stock.

Originally posted by roughrider
The Las Vegas shooter in 2017 used weapons that were comparable to automatic weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

So you admit that these shooters haven't been using automatic weapons like you claimed?

Originally posted by roughrider
Then where are these loonies who go on their mass murder sprees getting the automatic weapons? Several times the story is repeated that they were bought legally. So how are they restricted again? Are you saying they were all done with single pump action shotguns and handguns, or something that mows down a crowd faster?

No one has used automatic weapons during mass shooting, stick to underage boys seduced by older women, that’s the only thing you know.

Look at the troll! What did RR do, poke holes in the dilapidated, run down shack you call logic?

Originally posted by cdtm
Look at the troll! What did RR do, poke holes in the dilapidated, run down shack you call logic?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit trolling and stick to the topic.

Because your butt buddies rampant trolling of other posters is perfectly on topic.

Originally posted by cdtm
Look at the troll! What did RR do, poke holes in the dilapidated, run down shack you call logic?

No, he claimed these shooters used automatic weapons, which isn't true. which means he either lied or has no clue what he's talking about.