Originally posted by Surtur
Like I said: cling to the narrative, I know you need it and I'll allow it 🙂
So the Republican departures in 2018 and now has nothing to do with Trump. Okay; whatever helps you sleep at night.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just saying no this isn't some guaranteed sign he'll lose. Period. If you disagree so be it, your opinion is noted.
Who said "Trump will lose guaranteed"?
We're also not talking about Trump winning or losing, but the Republican party turnaround since Trump took office...
Originally posted by Surtur
Pretty sure mikebrown was implying it. The whole shit started by him trying to bring up Walsh as if it meant shit. Walsh isn't the example to use.
No, he implied that he believes Trump will lose, that's what the "if I had to bet" sentiment means. It's still a gamble and not guaranteed.
Walsh was just one example he noted...
Now, do you really believe Trump has nothing to do with Republican loses since he took office?
Originally posted by SurturOh, I'm more than just implying it. And not based just on the fact that he might be the first incumbent to be primaried for quite some time. That's one reason in a list of many.
Pretty sure mikebrown was implying it. The whole shit started by him trying to bring up Walsh as if it meant shit. Walsh isn't the example to use.
Obviously there's no guarantee he will lose, just like there's no guarantee a sports team will beat another sports team. But there are matches where you can pretty easily guess the likely winner. The only real response I've heard to this is "strange times" and "polls were wrong in 2016."
As I've said, he just barely won in 2016. Don't mistake an anomaly for the new rule in politics.
Originally posted by Surturlol... No
Yep and I'm saying again: it's not the example to use. Best to be avoided in the future if there are other examples. It sullies the whole thing including someone with TDS. Best to avoid it.
Whatever you think Walsh's motives are, having someone primary you from your own party as an incumbent has always been politically damaging. It's actually irrelevant what his motives are in this case.
It's the same sort of reason 3rd party campaigns that skew left can hurt the Democrats and vice versa. The incentive to back the incumbent from your own party is so over whelming and obvious that only extreme examples of trying to control the direction the party is going will warrant such an action. That's why it looks bad for the incumbent and that's why it's yet another weakness in the Trump 2020 campaign.
